I have not yet recived any real reply about this project. I would like to
hear from someone whether it could actually become a wikimedia project, and
what would need to happen before it could. Any comments would be apreciated.
Benjamin Webb (User:Bjwebb on wikipedia, meta, commons, wikibooks, rodovid
P.S. It has a meta page at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rodovid.org
Upon request I created a new CafePress shop for Wikipedia that only features the Wikipedia logo -
no text or anything else. See
I also uploaded Tlogmer's neat designs for two bumper stickers: One sticker has an abstract of the
English Wikipedia's [[Bumper sticker]] article and another has an abstract of the [[Automobile]]
article. I've already asked him to create [[Mousepad]] and [[T-shirt]] article designs. Hopefully
many more article designs will follow that will be suitable for placement on shirts (an abstract
of the [[Exploding whale]] article on a shirt, for example).
Tlogmer's neat 'wiki-swoosh' design is still waiting for me or somebody else to figure out what to
use it for or even what to name it (I'd like to avoid using the 'swoosh' name for obvious
trademark reasons with a certain shoe company). Might be a good logo for the whole Wikimedia
community in order to distinguish it from the foundation....
For those of you not familiar with it, the design is here:
All rights to that logo have already been assigned to the Wikimedia Foundation.
Another great thing Tlogmer created was a very unique design for possible Wikimania logo. You can
see it here:
No matter what logo is used, I do think that it would be a bit boring to use the Wikimedia logo
again for Wikimania. Something unique is needed. However, we need to choose a logo fast so that we
can promote it for Wikimania and order plenty of shirts and other items with it.
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> Can you give us a little more context? I can see that there is a
>proposal to create a separate meta wiki just for the english
>wikipedia, presumably because many things currently on meta.wikipedia
>are not really applicable to other wikipedias?
This isn't a proposal for an English meta at all. It was an attempt to
make Meta actually useful as a cross-project work wiki, rather than a
disorganised collection of historical documents with a few working
pages camped out in the archaeological rubble.
Linuxbeak started the latest attempt ( [[m:WM:OM]] ); Jimbo gave his
blessing, but warned that many had tried and failed before. The reason
appears to be that there are enough people who like it as it is that
they don't care it's all but unusable and frequently actively
misleading, and that those of us who would like a cross-project work
wiki are regarded as a bunch of dicks for trying.
Anthere has also said, when asked directly, that there is an active
meta community but they don't actually do their work on meta, rather
on mailing lists and IRC. Which doesn't sound to me like a work wiki,
but evidently does to her and others. So I proposed a "meta2", which
can actually be used as a work wiki. The current meta incumbents have
decided this is in fact a proposal for an en: wikipedia Meta, when it
wasn't actually anything of the sort, but anyway.
Meta is evidently not a cross-project work wiki or service wiki for
other projects, but a separate community unto itself, somewhat like
Commons. (Recall en:'s problems with vandalism of images stored on
Commons, and how we eventually had to resort to storing featured
images directly on en: owing to the recalcitrance of Commons admins
who insisted they were an independent project, never mind Commons was
*invented* as a service wiki.) I'm not entirely sure what the point
is, but I'm sure someone will follow up with what makes a wiki where
the community do their actual work in IRC and mailing lists into a
work wiki whose use is clear to those not in the inner circle.
> This struck me as unnecessarily confrontational.
The stream of abuse from those who consider themselves the guardians
of Meta strikes me as unnecessarily confrontational, and I'm really
not happy about it. When one of those is a Foundation board member,
I'm even less happy about it.
ChitChat with David over whether there is a meta community ... or not...
is nice, but let's get back to real business for a while :-)
There is a proposal on meta : InstantCommons
I would be happy if some of you could have a look at it (if not at the
technical details, at least to the general concept - it will not take
you much time) and give a feedback about it (here or on meta or on irc).
I am not looking for a comment by those who proposed the project... but
by the others ;-)
Thanks for your feedback.
Special Project Committee
The deadline for submitting proposals to the Wikimania 2006 conference
has been extended, to April 15 for workshop and tutorial submissions,
and April 30 for presentation submissions.
For more information, visit http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org. The
Call for Participation is attached below.
Call for Participation -- Wikimania 2006 -- Aug. 4 - Aug. 6, Cambridge, MA
Wikimania is an annual global event devoted to Wikipedia and other
Wikimedia projects. It is both a scientific conference and a community
event, open to the public. Wikimania is a place for users and editors
of the projects to gather from around the globe, to meet each other,
to exchange ideas, and to report on research and projects. This year's
conference will be held from 4-6 August, 2006, on the Harvard Law
School campus in Cambridge, Massachusetts. See
http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org for more information.
We are accepting submissions for papers, posters, presentations,
workshops, and discussion groups. We are also accepting nominations
for speakers and speaker panels, and suggestions for other activities.
Everyone is welcome to submit abstracts and ideas. Be bold in your
* 15 Apr 2006 (extended): Proposal deadline for workshops and tutorials
Notification of acceptance: by April 30
* 30 Apr 2006 (extended): Abstracts due for panels, papers, posters
Notification of acceptance: by May 15
* 4-6 Aug 2006: Wikimania
Submissions should address one or more of the following themes:
* Technical infrastructure -- Issues related to Mediawiki development
and extensions; Wikimedia hardware layout; new ideas for development
(including case studies from other wikis or similar projects).
* Wikimedia projects and content -- Presentation of interesting
projects and results; future aims of the projects and types of
distribution; ways to improve content quality. New uses for project
content: in education, journalism, research, &c.
* Free knowledge and access to information -- Present and future free
knowledge initiatives; related library and archival projects around
the world and input from librarians and archivists; ways to gather and
* Wiki social science -- The contributors and users (who are they?
Where do they come from?); reputation and identity issues; conflict
resolution and community dynamics; scaling digital communities.
Languages and cultures and their interactions online; multilingualism
via wikis. Linguistics studies on wiki communities.
* Law and Policy -- Copyleft, collective copyright, special issues
pertaining to communal editing and distribution; other legal areas for
which Wiki[mp]edia is an interesting case study. Policy creation
within individual projects.
Types of Submissions:
* Panels (Suggest a group of 2-5 speakers on a specific subject)
* Workshops (From 30-120 minutes)
* Presentations (10-30 minute presentations/papers)
* Posters (Printed presentations or visual displays that can stand on their own)
* BOFs (Birds-of-a-Feather/discussion sessions - 45-60 minutes of
* We are also accepting artistic submissions, especially visualizations
or other representations of some aspect of the projects.
* All submissions must include a title and an abstract of 100 to 300
words. They should also list the full name (and wiki name if
appropriate) of the submitter, with contact information and
affiliations. Special requirements for the presentation (equipment for
a workshop or panel) should be noted. The abstracts should be provided
as plain text, and not as file attachments.
* Workshop submissions should include a 1-2pp overview of the areas to
be covered or taught.
* Speaker panel submissions should include short biographies of each
* Paper and Presentation submissions may include a link to a draft of
the paper or slides, if available. State clearly whether the
submission concerns a specific wiki project, and whether the
presentation is intended to be a specific length.
* BOF proposals should describe the significance of and community
interest in the topic, and name the proposed discussion leader(s).
To process your submission, please see the Wikimania website -
http:/cfp.wikimania.wikimedia.org. Send questions or
suggestions to wikimania-cfp <at> wikimedia.org .
Final submissions must be provided in an open format (OpenOffice,
LaTeX sources, HTML...) and licensed under a free content license (GFDL
A limited number of stipends will be available to those unable to
obtain funding to attend the conference. Accepted presenters are
encouraged to apply if assistance is needed.
- phoebe s. ayers
brassratgirl(a)gmail.com | 530-756-2551
Après avoir expertisé l'état des données contenues dans le site
fr.wikiquote, la fondation Wikimedia considère que le matériel
hébergé dans la base
du site fr.wikiquote ne présente pas les garanties minimales de
sûreté juridique nécessaires à la
pérennité du projet. Le site va donc être entièrement repris pour
être effacé et relancé. Une politique
plus exigeante de traçabilité des citations mises en ligne sera
instaurée sur la version II de
fr.wikiquote. Cette décision a été prise dans l'intérêt de l'ensemble
des projets mis en oeuvre par la
--English Translation --
After analyzing the data contained in the fr.wikiquote site, the
Wikimedia Foundation has determined that the material stored in the
fr.wikiquote database does not provide the basic assurance of legal
soundness necessary to the permanence of the project. Therefore, the
site will be entirely taken down to be erased and relaunched. A
policy requiring greater traceability of quotations will be put in
place on fr.wikiquote version II. This action has been taken for the
benefit of all Wikimedia Foundation projects.
Translations can be made into other languages after the announcement
for the benefit of Wikiquotes in other languages that may be
interested. Any such translations should if possible work from the
original French text, this is a French announcement.
chief legal officer