Wikimedia-l March 2005

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[Foundation-l] [Fwd: Kennisnet will underwrite/pay for the creation of Wikidata and the Ultimate wiktionary]
by Gerard Meijssen 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Hoi, I am very happy to announce that Kennisnet is willing to underwrite/pay for the creation of wikidata and the ultimate wiktionary. This will allow us to host relational data within a Mediawiki environment. Wikidata will particularly enhance projects like Wikispecies and Wiktionary where a lot of the relevant data is relational in nature. The details of this project can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RfP_Wikidata_and_Ultimate_Wiktionary Thanks, :) GerardM

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Re: [Foundation-l] wikibreak
by Michael Becker 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

If there is anything I learned from my long wiki-break months ago it is that Wikipedia will continue to function fine without me. Since then, I've had a much more laid-back view of Wikipedia. I often go several days or weeks without doing anything wiki instead of trying to manage doing EVERYTHING EVERYDAY. I realize things are different for you Anthere seeing as so much trust has been put on you by the community. However, I am certain the community would survive if you choose to cut back on your visible involvement. Do what is best for you. You give a lot to the community and project which we all appreciate very much. Don't burn out :). On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 03:03:33 -0800 (PST), Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Okay > > This has little to do with a supposed "upper circle". > I guess everyone has a need for a break from time to time. > If I just consider recent times with people around me : > Tim has consider entirely giving up Wikipedia for a while, and is hopefully back though with less activity > Elian was on a wikibreak about 3 weeks ago > Sannse is currently on wikibreak though I do not know why. I just heard it was because of my proposal on OTRS. I know nothing more. > Ellisllk has decided to quit Wikipedia recently, asking me to unsysop him on Wikipedia and wikiquote > Danny is on wikibreak due to me not telling him what he expected, and he made at least 3 or 4 wikibreaks in the past months > Sj has been on and off since december > Yourself, Villy, has been on a big wikibreak in january and part of february (right ?) > Dunno about you, but I do not see a lot of Angela these days. Love is getting her busy. > Aphaia quit participating to some projects > Etc... > And likely, dozen of wikipedians are everyday on a break > > We do not always know why they do it. > Some people live Wikipedia passionately, others have more of an equal mood. Not everyone is equal in front of stress and disappointment. > > Yeah, I thought of explaining more why I am currently tired. But really, this should be obvious by the past days mails here. The rest of it is private issues. > > Perhaps I can only add four points. > > First, in the past few days, I did not sufficiently listened to others. I should have listened more. Or I should just have keep my mouth shut entirely. So perhaps it is more loss of faith in myself than in the project ? > > Second, to listen more to others however, it would be helpful that they talk. When they do not talk, it is really hard to know where to put feet, and it is hard to represent mute people. Typical example would be the proposal for OTRS. I may be the one concerned by the amount of mails to answer, but we might be all concerned by what we want the Foundation to become, a family kinda stuff, or something a bit more organised. If so, I would love to hear opinions on this. Please see the amount of feedback on this. I may have a responsability toward users, but I think that in a similar sort of way, users have a responsability toward me. Either one of support, or one of criticism, or suggesting other ideas... dunno... uh... something... less silent possibly ? > > Third, I had some bad proprietary thoughts. I still think that images I uploaded on Wikipedia are mine in a sense. I should not. If someone delete them, I should just not mind at all. Many of the texts I added to Wikipedia in three years have disappeared, remix in other people texts. They never asked me if they could remove my inputs. I think it is okay. I should not mind either that my images are deleted from Wikipedia (if I repeat it every morning, I should get convinced perhaps ?) > > Fourth, I really physically need a break. Aside from all above considerations. The last week has been very heavy for me at work, very little sleep. No heat at home for 4 days while outside temperature was below -10°C. I slept the whole saturday afternoon, which did not prevent me from falling asleep at 10 pm the same day. As I have already announced to a couple of wikipedians, I am waiting for a third baby, and I feel I need rest badly right now. I am tired. At least, I should focus on what is really important. Perhaps answering the pile of mails left in my mail box. Oh well. Whatever. > > > --------------------------------- > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Michael Becker

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Re:[Foundation-l] Re: wikibreak
by Nicolas Weeger 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

> I guess that a wikibreak is just not an option, unless I cut my personal Anthere, if you think you need to do that, then just do that - no one'll blame you :) > Otherwise, I am trying to improve the foundation current event with > Britty, so that the site becomes more informative. See > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Anthere/test for now. Sounds like a really good idea. Thanks for having it :) > Ant Thanks for all the good work Ryo Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn)

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[Foundation-l] conflict resolution at meta
by Andre Engels 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

I would like to get the question about conflict resolution at meta raised again, again about the same issue. For a moment it seemed to have been resolved by moving the desirability of image suppression to a separate page, but that page has now also become the subject of an edit war. Christiaan is reverting Gerard because his arguments 'show bad faith' (which apparently is a reason to forbid them being spoken), Gerard reverts Christiaan because his edits are 'vandalism' and 'not NPOV'. Apparently the two are not only disagreeing about whether image suppression is a good idea, but even about which arguments against it are acceptable enough to be on meta. Who can resolve this conflict? Andre Engels

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[Foundation-l] Wikinews story featured on news.google.com
by Erik Moeller 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Wikinews stories are copied regularly by a site called: http://www.theworldforum.org/ According to the operator of the site, Drog, his copy of this Wikinews story has been featured on the frontpage of news.google.com for "most of the day" and received over 2000 hits: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/CIA_sending_suspects_overseas_for_%22rendition%… Drog's comment: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=141759&cid=11878204 Note that Wikinews itself is not yet part of news.google.com due in part to the somewhat unpredictable nature of wikis. So we are only indexed indirectly through "snapshot" sites like theworldforum.org. Still, I think a Wikinews story being listed alongside articles from Reuters and the BBC is a major accomplishment. Kudos to everyone involved in writing the article. All best, Erik

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[Foundation-l] Request (formal) for bureaucrat status on wikinews.fr
by notafish 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Seing as I was "elected" for adminship with three votes on wikinews.fr (see : http://fr.wikinews.org/Wikinews:Administrateurs) and that some things needed to be done, I'd rather go through this list for a formal request for bureaucrat status on wikinews.fr. I believe I have at this stage enough comprehension of what the wiki is all about, I am starting to have a better vision of what Wikinews is (and is not), having for one followed the project from the very start, and for second started to translate policies and rules. It makes no sense to go through a vote within the wikinews.fr community at this stage, but it makes sense to be prepared for a (hopefully) growing community and a growing need of admins. Voilà, Best, Delphine

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[Foundation-l] BiasMeNot
by Michael Becker 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

I don't know how many of you have heard of BugMeNot (it's a site that allows you to search for usernames/passwords for sites requiring registration like nytimes.com). They have a link on their site titled "BiasMeNot <http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page>." I was presently surprised to see where it linked to.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Re: stewards elections
by Daniel Mayer 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

--- Walter Vermeir <walter(a)wikipedia.be> wrote: > Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales schreef: > > I see three candidates for Steward in this thread so far: > > Yann, waerth, Danny. > > > > Why don't I just make them all 3 stewards and we are done with it? > [cut] > > > > Having big public elections for everything is a bad idea. People will > > not be elected unless they are famous, but the way to get famous is not > > the same thing as the way to be qualified for a technical position. > > > > Imagine if we elected our developers for example... > > > > --Jimbo > > I vote for this option ;-) I started a vote on this at [[meta:Vote on whether or not we should vote for stewards]]. Just kidding. :) --mav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Foundation-l] Offial registration of Wikimedia France
by Daniel Mayer 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

--- Yann Forget <yann(a)forget-me.net> wrote: > Hi, > > Wikimedia France is now official registred as a non profit association. > > Thanks to all who helped to do that. Congratulations! -- mav __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

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[Foundation-l] Offial registration of Wikimedia France
by Yann Forget 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Hi, Wikimedia France is now official registred as a non profit association. Thanks to all who helped to do that. Yann Subject: [Wikimediafr-l] Publication au JO Date: Monday 7 March 2005 09:28 Extrait du site http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/accueil.php : Association: WIKIMEDIA FRANCE. No/Identifiant: Activité(s): Culturel/Technique et Recherche No de parution: 20050010 No d'annonce: 1193 Paru le: 05/03/05 Département (Région): 75 - Paris (ILE-DE-FRANCE) Sous-préfecture: Déclaration à la préfecture de police. Type d'annonce: Création (déclaration d'association) L'association a donc dorénavant la capacité juridique. Nicolas -- http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net http://fr.wikipedia.org/ | Encyclopédie libre http://www.forget-me.net/pro/ | Formations et services Linux

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