Hoi,
I am very happy to announce that Kennisnet is willing to underwrite/pay
for the creation of wikidata and the ultimate wiktionary. This will
allow us to host relational data within a Mediawiki environment.
Wikidata will particularly enhance projects like Wikispecies and
Wiktionary where a lot of the relevant data is relational in nature. The
details of this project can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RfP_Wikidata_and_Ultimate_Wiktionary
Thanks, :)
GerardM
If there is anything I learned from my long wiki-break months ago it is
that Wikipedia will continue to function fine without me. Since then,
I've had a much more laid-back view of Wikipedia. I often go several
days or weeks without doing anything wiki instead of trying to manage
doing EVERYTHING EVERYDAY. I realize things are different for you
Anthere seeing as so much trust has been put on you by the community.
However, I am certain the community would survive if you choose to cut
back on your visible involvement. Do what is best for you. You give a
lot to the community and project which we all appreciate very much.
Don't burn out :).
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 03:03:33 -0800 (PST), Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Okay
>
> This has little to do with a supposed "upper circle".
> I guess everyone has a need for a break from time to time.
> If I just consider recent times with people around me :
> Tim has consider entirely giving up Wikipedia for a while, and is
hopefully back though with less activity
> Elian was on a wikibreak about 3 weeks ago
> Sannse is currently on wikibreak though I do not know why. I just
heard it was because of my proposal on OTRS. I know nothing more.
> Ellisllk has decided to quit Wikipedia recently, asking me to unsysop
him on Wikipedia and wikiquote
> Danny is on wikibreak due to me not telling him what he expected, and
he made at least 3 or 4 wikibreaks in the past months
> Sj has been on and off since december
> Yourself, Villy, has been on a big wikibreak in january and part of
february (right ?)
> Dunno about you, but I do not see a lot of Angela these days. Love is
getting her busy.
> Aphaia quit participating to some projects
> Etc...
> And likely, dozen of wikipedians are everyday on a break
>
> We do not always know why they do it.
> Some people live Wikipedia passionately, others have more of an equal
mood. Not everyone is equal in front of stress and disappointment.
>
> Yeah, I thought of explaining more why I am currently tired. But
really, this should be obvious by the past days mails here. The rest of
it is private issues.
>
> Perhaps I can only add four points.
>
> First, in the past few days, I did not sufficiently listened to
others. I should have listened more. Or I should just have keep my mouth
shut entirely. So perhaps it is more loss of faith in myself than in the
project ?
>
> Second, to listen more to others however, it would be helpful that
they talk. When they do not talk, it is really hard to know where to put
feet, and it is hard to represent mute people. Typical example would be
the proposal for OTRS. I may be the one concerned by the amount of mails
to answer, but we might be all concerned by what we want the Foundation
to become, a family kinda stuff, or something a bit more organised. If
so, I would love to hear opinions on this. Please see the amount of
feedback on this. I may have a responsability toward users, but I think
that in a similar sort of way, users have a responsability toward me.
Either one of support, or one of criticism, or suggesting other ideas...
dunno... uh... something... less silent possibly ?
>
> Third, I had some bad proprietary thoughts. I still think that images
I uploaded on Wikipedia are mine in a sense. I should not. If someone
delete them, I should just not mind at all. Many of the texts I added to
Wikipedia in three years have disappeared, remix in other people texts.
They never asked me if they could remove my inputs. I think it is okay.
I should not mind either that my images are deleted from Wikipedia (if I
repeat it every morning, I should get convinced perhaps ?)
>
> Fourth, I really physically need a break. Aside from all above
considerations. The last week has been very heavy for me at work, very
little sleep. No heat at home for 4 days while outside temperature was
below -10°C. I slept the whole saturday afternoon, which did not prevent
me from falling asleep at 10 pm the same day. As I have already
announced to a couple of wikipedians, I am waiting for a third baby, and
I feel I need rest badly right now. I am tired. At least, I should focus
on what is really important. Perhaps answering the pile of mails left in
my mail box. Oh well. Whatever.
>
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> I guess that a wikibreak is just not an option, unless I cut my personal
Anthere, if you think you need to do that, then just do that - no one'll blame you :)
> Otherwise, I am trying to improve the foundation current event with
> Britty, so that the site becomes more informative. See
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Anthere/test for now.
Sounds like a really good idea. Thanks for having it :)
> Ant
Thanks for all the good work
Ryo
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I would like to get the question about conflict resolution at meta
raised again, again about the same issue. For a moment it seemed to
have been resolved by moving the desirability of image suppression to
a separate page, but that page has now also become the subject of an
edit war. Christiaan is reverting Gerard because his arguments 'show
bad faith' (which apparently is a reason to forbid them being spoken),
Gerard reverts Christiaan because his edits are 'vandalism' and 'not
NPOV'.
Apparently the two are not only disagreeing about whether image
suppression is a good idea, but even about which arguments against it
are acceptable enough to be on meta. Who can resolve this conflict?
Andre Engels
Seing as I was "elected" for adminship with three votes on wikinews.fr
(see : http://fr.wikinews.org/Wikinews:Administrateurs) and that some
things needed to be done, I'd rather go through this list for a formal
request for bureaucrat status on wikinews.fr.
I believe I have at this stage enough comprehension of what the wiki
is all about, I am starting to have a better vision of what Wikinews
is (and is not), having for one followed the project from the very
start, and for second started to translate policies and rules.
It makes no sense to go through a vote within the wikinews.fr
community at this stage, but it makes sense to be prepared for a
(hopefully) growing community and a growing need of admins.
Voilà,
Best,
Delphine
I don't know how many of you have heard of BugMeNot (it's a site that
allows you to search for usernames/passwords for sites requiring
registration like nytimes.com). They have a link on their site titled
"BiasMeNot <http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page>." I was presently
surprised to see where it linked to.
--- Walter Vermeir <walter(a)wikipedia.be> wrote:
> Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales schreef:
> > I see three candidates for Steward in this thread so far:
> > Yann, waerth, Danny.
> >
> > Why don't I just make them all 3 stewards and we are done with it?
> [cut]
> >
> > Having big public elections for everything is a bad idea. People will
> > not be elected unless they are famous, but the way to get famous is not
> > the same thing as the way to be qualified for a technical position.
> >
> > Imagine if we elected our developers for example...
> >
> > --Jimbo
>
> I vote for this option ;-)
I started a vote on this at [[meta:Vote on whether or not we should vote for
stewards]].
Just kidding. :)
--mav
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--- Yann Forget <yann(a)forget-me.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Wikimedia France is now official registred as a non profit association.
>
> Thanks to all who helped to do that.
Congratulations!
-- mav
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Hi,
Wikimedia France is now official registred as a non profit association.
Thanks to all who helped to do that.
Yann
Subject: [Wikimediafr-l] Publication au JO
Date: Monday 7 March 2005 09:28
Extrait du site http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/accueil.php :
Association: WIKIMEDIA FRANCE. No/Identifiant:
Activité(s): Culturel/Technique et Recherche
No de parution: 20050010 No d'annonce: 1193 Paru le: 05/03/05
Département (Région): 75 - Paris (ILE-DE-FRANCE)
Sous-préfecture: Déclaration à la préfecture de police.
Type d'annonce: Création (déclaration d'association)
L'association a donc dorénavant la capacité juridique.
Nicolas
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