Wikimedia-l January 2005

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[Foundation-l] New project proposal - Wikilabs, was New project proposal - Wikibuilder
by Christiaan Briggs 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

I've proposed Wikilabs on [[New project proposals]]. see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects#Wikilabs and: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilabs SJ, I put you down as a proposer, feel free, of course, to remove your name or move it to 'People interested in joining.' Christiaan

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[Foundation-l] Wikimedia at SoCal Linux Expo - volunteers needed
by Brion Vibber 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

There's going to be a Wikimedia/Wikipedia booth in the exhibition hall at the Southern California Linux Expo, coming up on February 12-13, 2005 at the Los Angeles Convention Center. More information on the expo in general: http://socallinuxexpo.com/ We'll have a computer set up for visitors to marvel at Wikipedia, and perhaps trundle out some fliers or a few CD-Rs of goodies. If you'd like to help out manning the booth, *please* sign yourself up here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Southern_California_Linux_Expo and drop me an e-mail. So far there's only one other guy listed and I have no contact information for him. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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[Foundation-l] proof reader needed
by Jakob Voss 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Hi! I am currently writing a research paper about Wikipedia I want to submit to a conference. I am in a hurry and looking for one or two interested native speakers for proof reading my paper. There are some new statistics but I can't make it all public before submission. There are 8 pages and I am working on 5-8 more. Anyone interested please mail me. Thanks a lot! Jakob

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[Foundation-l] a weird one, i guess, but...
by Reuven R. 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

heyo... a general idea - what if there was a patent-wiki? to write down softwere(mostly) patents which u want to keep availible to the public - providing proof of their existance before any other registration attempt? and serving as a lisintg of availible methods and such... this could be an idea for the preservation(or something?) wiki which suggested writting down how things work before the end of the civilization as we know it.. ;p reuven r. ===== http://www.mia.org.il/petition/index1.html http://hungersite.com in case, ur wondering, about the first link - http://www.terror-victims.israel.net/mainh.swf and who'd thought that we'll need http://www.petitiononline.com/rjw23/ ,eh? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Foundation-l] Re: exposé par un enfant
by Nicholas Moreau 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Best that I get from this text is that you want to create an encyclopedia in which kids can submit their own works, yes? Or is it just an encyclopedia for kids? Nick/Zanimum ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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[Foundation-l] New project proposal : wikimaps
by Magnus Manske 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

I just thought I'd submit this here, so it can go through the "proper chanels"... :-) My latest software can generate maps from data stored in wiki pages. Automatically generated maps should be used in Wikimedia and other projects (wikitravel comes to mind). You probably saw my mail(s) on wikipedia-l, but here's the link to the demo site again: http://magnusmanske.de/wikimaps/index.php/Main_Page (requires SVG-enabeled browser). I hereby request this as a new project (we already do have wikimaps.org, right?). IMHO a separate, single server would be best suited for this. With a lot of data, map generation will slow down, and it should not slow down other projects in turn. Also, due to the speed of the wikimedia projects (or the lack thereof), I propose waiting for the next batch of servers to be installed before doing this. There's the question of the license for the data we will collect. PD? GFDL? CC-BY-SA? If we say geo-data should be public domain, can we really slap a "GFDL" on it? Or maybe we should dual-license out to-be data CC-BY-SA and GFDL, to give maximum freedom while ensuring the data stays free? Magnus

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Re: [Foundation-l] Should we go into read-only mode during peak periods to de...
by daniwo59＠aol.com 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

I would support the idea but with the caveat that perhaps it may be better to start by doing that to smaller projects first. I dont know enough about computers to be able to tell, but if we were to do that to wikisource, wikibooks, and maybe some of the smaller languages first, the larger projects would be able to function adequately. Danny

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[Foundation-l] Should we go into read-only mode during peak periods to deal with slowdowns?
by Daniel Mayer 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

As it is and in spite of very admirable efforts by our volunteer developers, the site is still effectively dead during peak periods. NOIE: I know more servers on on the way, but it will be a couple weeks - at least - until they are on-line. The slowdown does not make us look good to clueless visitors to our site who are only looking for information. A great many of those people will simply not wait and move on while us Wikipediaholics spend hour upon frustrating hour trying to police the site and contribute content. As a temporary measure in situations like this, I propose that all the wikis be locked into read only mode with no log-ins accepted and a sitewide message be displayed on the top of each page saying what is happening, why, and how they can help by donating (with a donation link). This could be phased-in with the English language sites going read-only first, and then for all other wikis as the site message is translated. Read performance should greatly improve with all page requests cachable and database usage at a minimum, That way we are still available to readers (by far our most numerous users), everybody is informed, and our editors get a much needed break from a frustrating editing experience. This should also have a side benefit of greatly increasing donations. So, what does everybody else think? -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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[Foundation-l] Continued concern with performance
by Rich Holton 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

We are now well into the fourth day since I originally expressed my concern about the performance issues on en.wikipedia. While the situation may have improved a bit, and some of the ugliest error messages seem to be reduced, the situation is still far from being resolved. Attempting to do any useful work on Wikipedia has become futile. Article view time has become sporadic, and frequently very bad to intolerable. For any site other than Wikipedia, I would never know that the site was working at all, since I would fairly quickly write it off as "down". I am committed to Wikipedia and its objectives. I will tolerate these performance delays. But I believe that there must be many who will not tolerate them, and will write-off Wikipedia. Is this what we want? While it appears that the developers are very busy attempting to solve the technical issues, there seems to be little actual progress. How long will we allow this situation to continue without attempting solutions of a different sort? A good operational definition of insanity is "continuing the same actions expecting different results." If our developers lack time, resources, or skill needed to resolve the issues, then let us immediately hire a temporary consultant to focus on this problem and resolve it. We owe our developers great thanks, appreciation, and respect. But a big part of that lies in recognizing when we are expecting them to accomplish what is impossible. Given their restrictions on time, resources, and skill, are we asking them to do the impossible? With respect, concern, and frustration Rich Holton (en.Wikipedia:User:Rholton) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal - Wikibuilder
by Christiaan Briggs 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

If we program it right and throw in some [[Rapid manufacturing]] we should be able to have a nice side business in building manufacture in no time. :) On 19 Jan 2005, at 9:50 am, Gordon Joly wrote: > > Does a Wikibuilder build your house very quickly? > > Gordo > > :-)

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