There's going to be a Wikimedia/Wikipedia booth in the exhibition hall
at the Southern California Linux Expo, coming up on February 12-13, 2005
at the Los Angeles Convention Center.
More information on the expo in general: http://socallinuxexpo.com/
We'll have a computer set up for visitors to marvel at Wikipedia, and
perhaps trundle out some fliers or a few CD-Rs of goodies. If you'd like
to help out manning the booth, *please* sign yourself up here:
and drop me an e-mail. So far there's only one other guy listed and I
have no contact information for him.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
I am currently writing a research paper about Wikipedia I want to submit
to a conference. I am in a hurry and looking for one or two interested
native speakers for proof reading my paper. There are some new
statistics but I can't make it all public before submission. There are 8
pages and I am working on 5-8 more. Anyone interested please mail me.
Thanks a lot!
a general idea - what if there was a patent-wiki? to
write down softwere(mostly) patents which u want to
keep availible to the public - providing proof of
their existance before any other registration attempt?
and serving as a lisintg of availible methods and
this could be an idea for the preservation(or
something?) wiki which suggested writting down how
things work before the end of the civilization as we
know it.. ;p
in case, ur wondering, about the first link -
and who'd thought that we'll need http://www.petitiononline.com/rjw23/ ,eh?
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Best that I get from this text is that you want to
create an encyclopedia in which kids can submit their
own works, yes?
Or is it just an encyclopedia for kids?
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I just thought I'd submit this here, so it can go through the "proper
My latest software can generate maps from data stored in wiki pages.
Automatically generated maps should be used in Wikimedia and other
projects (wikitravel comes to mind). You probably saw my mail(s) on
wikipedia-l, but here's the link to the demo site again:
(requires SVG-enabeled browser).
I hereby request this as a new project (we already do have wikimaps.org,
IMHO a separate, single server would be best suited for this. With a lot
of data, map generation will slow down, and it should not slow down
other projects in turn. Also, due to the speed of the wikimedia projects
(or the lack thereof), I propose waiting for the next batch of servers
to be installed before doing this.
There's the question of the license for the data we will collect. PD?
GFDL? CC-BY-SA? If we say geo-data should be public domain, can we
really slap a "GFDL" on it? Or maybe we should dual-license out to-be
data CC-BY-SA and GFDL, to give maximum freedom while ensuring the data
I would support the idea but with the caveat that perhaps it may be better to
start by doing that to smaller projects first. I dont know enough about
computers to be able to tell, but if we were to do that to wikisource, wikibooks,
and maybe some of the smaller languages first, the larger projects would be
able to function adequately.
As it is and in spite of very admirable efforts by our volunteer developers,
the site is still effectively dead during peak periods. NOIE: I know more
servers on on the way, but it will be a couple weeks - at least - until they
The slowdown does not make us look good to clueless visitors to our site who
are only looking for information. A great many of those people will simply not
wait and move on while us Wikipediaholics spend hour upon frustrating hour
trying to police the site and contribute content.
As a temporary measure in situations like this, I propose that all the wikis be
locked into read only mode with no log-ins accepted and a sitewide message be
displayed on the top of each page saying what is happening, why, and how they
can help by donating (with a donation link).
This could be phased-in with the English language sites going read-only first,
and then for all other wikis as the site message is translated. Read
performance should greatly improve with all page requests cachable and database
usage at a minimum,
That way we are still available to readers (by far our most numerous users),
everybody is informed, and our editors get a much needed break from a
frustrating editing experience. This should also have a side benefit of greatly
So, what does everybody else think?
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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We are now well into the fourth day since I originally expressed my
concern about the performance issues on en.wikipedia. While the
situation may have improved a bit, and some of the ugliest error
messages seem to be reduced, the situation is still far from being
Attempting to do any useful work on Wikipedia has become futile.
Article view time has become sporadic, and frequently very bad to
intolerable. For any site other than Wikipedia, I would never know that
the site was working at all, since I would fairly quickly write it off
I am committed to Wikipedia and its objectives. I will tolerate these
performance delays. But I believe that there must be many who will not
tolerate them, and will write-off Wikipedia. Is this what we want?
While it appears that the developers are very busy attempting to solve
the technical issues, there seems to be little actual progress. How
long will we allow this situation to continue without attempting
solutions of a different sort? A good operational definition of
insanity is "continuing the same actions expecting different results."
If our developers lack time, resources, or skill needed to resolve the
issues, then let us immediately hire a temporary consultant to focus on
this problem and resolve it.
We owe our developers great thanks, appreciation, and respect. But a
big part of that lies in recognizing when we are expecting them to
accomplish what is impossible. Given their restrictions on time,
resources, and skill, are we asking them to do the impossible?
With respect, concern, and frustration
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If we program it right and throw in some [[Rapid manufacturing]] we
should be able to have a nice side business in building manufacture in
no time. :)
On 19 Jan 2005, at 9:50 am, Gordon Joly wrote:
> Does a Wikibuilder build your house very quickly?