Hi Addis,
The Philippines doesn't officially have any monuments ID, what we did was
just obtain the list of officially recognized "monuments" from our national
cultural agency and we improvised our own ID system, I believe the same is
the case in Israel, where WMIL improvised their ID system for their
monuments.
I hope that helps.
Regards,
Roel Balingit
WLM Philippines Coordinator
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
If you built your own code, the best way is to use an
existing one which
people can find, as a basis. At the end of that exiting codes of the
town/etc you can add a dash/slash/etc and a number for each individual
monument.
Romaine
--- On *Thu, 6/6/13, AddisWang <addiswang94(a)gmail.com>* wrote:
From: AddisWang <addiswang94(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] News From China
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 6:51 PM
That's what we decide to do. We have many ways to make the id unique for
whole country. The government even has unique id for every town, although
not for monuments.
Addis
在 2013-6-7,上午2:47,Romaine Wiki
<romaine_wiki@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=romaine_wiki@yahoo.com>>
写道:
I would suggest concerning the id's is that the id's have to be unique for
whole China. I think the Chinese government has assigned codes to at least
provinces but I guess also to smaller areas. Depending on the situation
choose for <province code>-<prefecture code>-... But it depends on in what
area the code is unique, if the prefecture code of every prefecture is
unique everywhere in China, use that as base, if it is only unique in the
province, the prefecture code must be preceded by the code of the province.
Romaine
--- On *Thu, 6/6/13, rupert THURNER
<rupert.thurner@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=rupert.thurner@gmail.com>
* wrote:
From: rupert THURNER
<rupert.thurner@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=rupert.thurner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] News
From China
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org<http://mc/compose?to=wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 6:36 PM
You mean something like this for the regions?
http://www.statoids.com/ucn.html
Rupert
Am 06.06.2013 20:03 schrieb "AddisWang" <addiswang94(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi Sven
I have to say your Chinese is great, especially you can really type it
rather than only speaking. Let me know if any thing I can help. :)
Actually we decide to use area code plus serial number as unique id if we
can create our own. Not only the situation in China is little different
with other countries, but even in the relative branches of government might
have different id system. But still thanks for all your advice.
Addis
在 2013-6-7,上午1:43,Sven Manguard <svenmanguard(a)gmail.com> 写道:
I personally don't think that the lack of "official" IDs should exclude a
country from participation, but I'm not part of the international
organizing team and can't speak for them.
Some suggestions for creating an ID system yourself. I studied a bit of
Chinese myself (我的汉语太不好, 我学习汉语了一年半了.) (I really hope that's correct) so I
know better than to suggest "alphabetical order" However:
If all of the items you want to include have known geographic coordinates,
you can go from northwest to southeast by province and assign each spot a
number (Yunnan 1, Yunnan 2, Yunnan 3, etc)
If all of the items you want to include have Wikipedia articles (in any
language), you don't even have to make up the numbers yourself, you could
use the (essentially random) numbers that Wikidata uses (i.e. Yuanmingyuan
is on Wikidata as
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q907894 so you could use
907894).
Finally, you could try to do it based on age, but since many of the cites
you're going to photograph are going to be from the Dynastic period, and
dates can get a little fuzzy if you go back too far, that might not be a
viable option.
The downside to the first one is that if you add new items next year or
the year after, things are going to be out of geographical order. The
downside to the second one is the numbers are random and there are going to
be large gaps in between most of them.
These are just ideas though, you might have a better system in mind.
Sven
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, AddisWang <addiswang94(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All
I'm Addis Wang, the organizer of WLM in China this year. Just confirming
that China will attend the competition this year.
And there are some questions in the preparing if someone would like to
help us.
1. Unique ID: It seems many countries have their official IDs excluding
China, or at least is non-published. Since it might hard to cooperate with
government in this country, can we crete our own id for monuments in China?
And are there any requirements for the Unique ID?
2. List: The monuments list is needed. But I also found a page introducing
database something like that, and seems complicated. So is this also
necessary or we only need to make some lists instead of database.
Best,
Addis Wang
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