Hi all,
We got a lot of photos which show monuments' details, so I don't know whether to point out to the jury to eliminate those or not? I mean, do the winner photos have to show the objects in whole? The other thing is we got superb photos that are of low resolution (~1000x768) - should they be eliminated as well? The first round is over, with around 940 photos left for the main jurors to rate.
Tamara
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Tamara Petrovic wrote:
We got a lot of photos which show monuments' details, so I don't know whether to point out to the jury to eliminate those or not? I mean, do the winner photos have to show the objects in whole?
There is no rule about this. If the detail photo is good and useful for wikipedia, there is no reason it can be a winner.
The other thing is we got superb photos that are of low resolution (~1000x768) - should they be eliminated as well? The first round is over, with around 940 photos left for the main jurors to rate.
Low resolution will limit the ways an image can be used (for example, they may not be printed). So it would be useful for the winner to not be low resolution.
I do believe, if the detail is encyclopedically valuable and illustates something important about the monument (i. e. inside of the cupola of a church) then it should be preserved. We in WLM CZ however remove most of the details, because they do not fill this criterium. I also think it is up to you which resolutions you would like to accept and which not. Frankly - in every WLM participating country people have different cameras. As far as I know, WLM India has a low ratio MB/picture, while Germany have a superb one. So a simple "template" for all the countries can hardly be used. Aktron Wikimedia Czech Republic ______________________________________________________________
Od: "Tamara Petrovic" Komu: Datum: 05.10.2012 13:10 Předmět: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Rating the photos
Hi all,
We got a lot of photos which show monuments' details, so I don't know whether to point out to the jury to eliminate those or not? I mean, do the winner photos have to show the objects in whole?The other thing is we got superb photos that are of low resolution (~1000x768) - should they be eliminated as well? The first round is over, with around 940 photos left for the main jurors to rate. Tamara
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Hi Aktron,
I assume with remove, you only mean that you don't consider them for a prize? (that is a fair reasoning I guess, under the 'usefulness' principle).
Tamara: I would suggest to leave it up to the jury, as long as they keep the criteria in mind. Every country can make their own judgement calls on what resolutions etc. If you want your nominees to win in the finals though, it would be good to keep the Featured Picture minimum criteria in mind (I'm sure someone can link them) and guidelines - but it should definitely not mean that everything lower than that should not be considered at all! A winning picture is chosed based on a combination of technical quality, usefullness and originality.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/10/5 aktron@centrum.cz
I do believe, if the detail is encyclopedically valuable and illustates something important about the monument (i. e. inside of the cupola of a church) then it should be preserved. We in WLM CZ however remove most of the details, because they do not fill this criterium.
I also think it is up to you which resolutions you would like to accept and which not. Frankly - in every WLM participating country people have different cameras. As far as I know, WLM India has a low ratio MB/picture, while Germany have a superb one. So a simple "template" for all the countries can hardly be used.
Aktron
Wikimedia Czech Republic
Od: "Tamara Petrovic" bebauautu@gmail.com Komu: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 05.10.2012 13:10 Předmět: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Rating the photos
Hi all,
We got a lot of photos which show monuments' details, so I don't know whether to point out to the jury to eliminate those or not? I mean, do the winner photos have to show the objects in whole? The other thing is we got superb photos that are of low resolution (~1000x768) - should they be eliminated as well? The first round is over, with around 940 photos left for the main jurors to rate.
Tamara
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Op 5-10-2012 14:57, Lodewijk schreef:
Hi Aktron,
I assume with remove, you only mean that you don't consider them for a prize? (that is a fair reasoning I guess, under the 'usefulness' principle).
Tamara: I would suggest to leave it up to the jury, as long as they keep the criteria in mind. Every country can make their own judgement calls on what resolutions etc. If you want your nominees to win in the finals though, it would be good to keep the Featured Picture minimum criteria in mind (I'm sure someone can link them) and guidelines - but it should definitely not mean that everything lower than that should not be considered at all! A winning picture is chosed based on a combination of technical quality, usefullness and originality.
The link is at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_guidelines . You should leave all the decisions up to the jury.
Maarten
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
I assume with remove, you only mean that you don't consider them for a prize? (that is a fair reasoning I guess, under the 'usefulness' principle).
yeah, I second that, I am all for keeping lowres shots of things we dont have pics of otherwise. mike
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