Dear all,
Yesterday, I have met with the people responsible for the protection of cultural properties at the Federal Office for Civil Protection in Switzerland. The minutes (in German) can be found here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweizer_Denkmallisten/M...
Here a summary:
- They are happy to help us with the monuments lists in their area of competence (in addition to the lists of cultural properties of national and regional significance which are handled at the national level, there are also cantonal and municipal monuments lists which they are not responsible for).
- They are positive about Wiki Loves Monuments; the same is true for the cantonal instances they are in contact with (monument protection services / civil protection services).
- They promised to provide us with database dumps, including all the KGS-identifiers (A- and B-objects; identifiers of B objects have been missing so far) by the end of May / beginning of June.
- They will take measures to facilitate the updating of the lists on Wikipedia in the future (clearly indicating changes on their lists; making database dumps available).
- They ask us not to use the official white-blue cultural-property sign for any other objects than KGS class A objects and not to use similar signs either (in fact the use of the official sign is regulated by international law and Swiss law) - This should be taken into account when designing the interfaces of information systems (map applications, phone apps, etc.)
- They gave us recommendations in order to avoid complications due to the different semantic systems at various federal levels
- They will be happy to get informed about any corrections made by the community.
So, and now I hope that the 26+ cantonal and municipal authorities responsible for the rest of the monuments will be as cooperative as the federal ones! ;-)
Kind regards, Beat Estermann
_____________________________________________________ Beat Estermann Research Associate Berne University of Applied Sciences E-Government Institute Morgartenstrasse 2a Postfach 305 CH-3000 Bern 22 beat.estermann@bfh.ch www.e-government.bfh.ch Phone +41 31 848 34 30 Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38 Fax +41 31 848 34 31
Sounds good, thanks for the update!
Regarding the symbol for a 'monument' this issue has indeed come up multiple times. The shield is regulated The Hague convention, so officially should indeed not be used for monuments at all, but only for buildings or collections protected by that convention. However, colloquially it has become somewhat of a symbol for a monument in many countries.
Does anyone have a good suggestion for an internationally usable symbol?
Lodewijk
2013/5/24 Estermann Beat beat.estermann@bfh.ch
Dear all,****
Yesterday, I have met with the people responsible for the protection of cultural properties at the Federal Office for Civil Protection in Switzerland.****
The minutes (in German) can be found here:****
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweizer_Denkmallisten/M...
Here a summary:****
**- **They are happy to help us with the monuments lists in their area of competence (in addition to the lists of cultural properties of national and regional significance which are handled at the national level, there are also cantonal and municipal monuments lists which they are not responsible for).****
**- **They are positive about Wiki Loves Monuments; the same is true for the cantonal instances they are in contact with (monument protection services / civil protection services).****
**- **They promised to provide us with database dumps, including all the KGS-identifiers (A- and B-objects; identifiers of B objects have been missing so far) by the end of May / beginning of June.****
**- **They will take measures to facilitate the updating of the lists on Wikipedia in the future (clearly indicating changes on their lists; making database dumps available).****
**- **They ask us not to use the official white-blue cultural-property sign for any other objects than KGS class A objects and not to use similar signs either (in fact the use of the official sign is regulated by international law and Swiss law) – This should be taken into account when designing the interfaces of information systems (map applications, phone apps, etc.)****
**- **They gave us recommendations in order to avoid complications due to the different semantic systems at various federal levels****
**- **They will be happy to get informed about any corrections made by the community.****
So, and now I hope that the 26+ cantonal and municipal authorities responsible for the rest of the monuments will be as cooperative as the federal ones! ;-)****
Kind regards,****
Beat Estermann ****
_____________________________________________________ ****
Beat Estermann Research Associate****
Berne University of Applied Sciences E-Government Institute Morgartenstrasse 2a Postfach 305 CH-3000 Bern 22 ****
beat.estermann@bfh.ch www.e-government.bfh.ch ****
Phone +41 31 848 34 30 Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38 Fax +41 31 848 34 31 ****
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wow, great to hear!
Greets -- Alexander Wagner User:AleXXw http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw
Mit freundlicher Unterstützung von: Wikimedia Österreich - Gesellschaft zur Förderung freien Wissens
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Estermann Beat beat.estermann@bfh.chwrote:
Dear all,****
Yesterday, I have met with the people responsible for the protection of cultural properties at the Federal Office for Civil Protection in Switzerland.****
The minutes (in German) can be found here:****
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweizer_Denkmallisten/M...
Here a summary:****
**- **They are happy to help us with the monuments lists in their area of competence (in addition to the lists of cultural properties of national and regional significance which are handled at the national level, there are also cantonal and municipal monuments lists which they are not responsible for).****
**- **They are positive about Wiki Loves Monuments; the same is true for the cantonal instances they are in contact with (monument protection services / civil protection services).****
**- **They promised to provide us with database dumps, including all the KGS-identifiers (A- and B-objects; identifiers of B objects have been missing so far) by the end of May / beginning of June.****
**- **They will take measures to facilitate the updating of the lists on Wikipedia in the future (clearly indicating changes on their lists; making database dumps available).****
**- **They ask us not to use the official white-blue cultural-property sign for any other objects than KGS class A objects and not to use similar signs either (in fact the use of the official sign is regulated by international law and Swiss law) – This should be taken into account when designing the interfaces of information systems (map applications, phone apps, etc.)****
**- **They gave us recommendations in order to avoid complications due to the different semantic systems at various federal levels****
**- **They will be happy to get informed about any corrections made by the community.****
So, and now I hope that the 26+ cantonal and municipal authorities responsible for the rest of the monuments will be as cooperative as the federal ones! ;-)****
Kind regards,****
Beat Estermann ****
_____________________________________________________ ****
Beat Estermann Research Associate****
Berne University of Applied Sciences E-Government Institute Morgartenstrasse 2a Postfach 305 CH-3000 Bern 22 ****
beat.estermann@bfh.ch www.e-government.bfh.ch ****
Phone +41 31 848 34 30 Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38 Fax +41 31 848 34 31 ****
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org