Basically, the row template was missing a title for coordinates: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le%3ALigne_de_tableau_Mo...

Template https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Mapa_llista_coordenades includes OSM map like the German version. Although it misses some magics, the syntax is simpler to copy or understand.

Vicenç

From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 09:02:49 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi,

This tool is working fine on German Wikipedia - Template: {{All Coordinates}} : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kulturg%C3%BCter_in_Bern/Breitenrain-...

All the coordinates are indicated, along with the object description and a link to the wiki-page with the corresponding list.

However, it is not working properly on the French and Italian Wikipedias.

French - Template {{Modèle:GeoGroup}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_CH/Liste_de...

French - Template {{KML}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:L%C3%A9gende_du_tableau_Monuments_%...

In these cases, the coordinates are indicated, but the object description is missing (the link to the wiki-page is there). Seeing just numbered items on a map, without having the key of the number at hand, is not really helpful.

On Italian Wikipedia, these templates seem to be missing altogether.

It would be great if someone could look into these issues and let us know what needs to be changed to make it work in French and Italian as well!

Cheers, Beat

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-----Original Message----- From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 01:56 To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

On 24 August 2013 00:42, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:

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Is there a tool to get all the coordinates of a page (list) on a map like Google Maps or

other?

On en.Wikipedia, put {{KML}} on the page.

On other Wikipedias (that use a copy of en.Wikipedias {{Coord}}), make a version of that template ;-)

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That is because a caché. Try in the Google bar to change last parameter &usecache=1 to &usecache=0, or try other lists supossedly not cached.

Vicenç

From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:52:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi Vincenç, Ok, but it still doesn’t indicate the object descriptions on the map. Instead it gives a number. – Have a look at the German example page for comparison! Cheers,Beat From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Vicenç Riullop Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 13:06 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map Basically, the row template was missing a title for coordinates: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le%3ALigne_de_tableau_Mo...

Template https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Mapa_llista_coordenades includes OSM map like the German version. Although it misses some magics, the syntax is simpler to copy or understand.

Vicenç> From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch

To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 09:02:49 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi,

This tool is working fine on German Wikipedia - Template: {{All Coordinates}} : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kulturg%C3%BCter_in_Bern/Breitenrain-...

All the coordinates are indicated, along with the object description and a link to the wiki-page with the corresponding list.

However, it is not working properly on the French and Italian Wikipedias.

French - Template {{Modèle:GeoGroup}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_CH/Liste_de...

French - Template {{KML}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:L%C3%A9gende_du_tableau_Monuments_%...

In these cases, the coordinates are indicated, but the object description is missing (the link to the wiki-page is there). Seeing just numbered items on a map, without having the key of the number at hand, is not really helpful.

On Italian Wikipedia, these templates seem to be missing altogether.

It would be great if someone could look into these issues and let us know what needs to be changed to make it work in French and Italian as well!

Cheers, Beat

...

-----Original Message----- From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 01:56 To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

On 24 August 2013 00:42, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:

...

Is there a tool to get all the coordinates of a page (list) on a map like Google Maps or

other?

On en.Wikipedia, put {{KML}} on the page.

On other Wikipedias (that use a copy of en.Wikipedias {{Coord}}), make a version of that template ;-)

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Hi,

I applied the same solution on https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le:Ligne_de_tableau_monu...

However, when the name of the object has a link, the name is visible in the Coordinates section (ex. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_monuments_class%C3%A9s_du_gouvernora...).

Do you know how it can be fixed?

Regards, Mourad

________________________________ De : Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com À : "wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Envoyé le : Samedi 24 août 2013 15h59 Objet : Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

That is because a caché. Try in the Google bar to change last parameter &usecache=1 to &usecache=0, or try other lists supossedly not cached.

Vicenç

________________________________ From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:52:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi Vincenç,   Ok, but it still doesn’t indicate the object descriptions on the map. Instead it gives a number. – Have a look at the German example page for comparison!   Cheers, Beat   From:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Vicenç Riullop Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 13:06 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map   Basically, the row template was missing a title for coordinates: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le%3ALigne_de_tableau_Mo...

Template https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Mapa_llista_coordenades includes OSM map like the German version. Although it misses some magics, the syntax is simpler to copy or understand.

Vicenç

From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 09:02:49 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi,

This tool is working fine on German Wikipedia - Template: {{All Coordinates}} : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kulturg%C3%BCter_in_Bern/Breitenrain-...

All the coordinates are indicated, along with the object description and a link to the wiki-page with the corresponding list.

However, it is not working properly on the French and Italian Wikipedias.

French - Template {{Modèle:GeoGroup}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_CH/Liste_de...

French - Template {{KML}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:L%C3%A9gende_du_tableau_Monuments_%...

In these cases, the coordinates are indicated, but the object description is missing (the link to the wiki-page is there). Seeing just numbered items on a map, without having the key of the number at hand, is not really helpful.

On Italian Wikipedia, these templates seem to be missing altogether.

It would be great if someone could look into these issues and let us know what needs to be changed to make it work in French and Italian as well!

Cheers, Beat

...

-----Original Message----- From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 01:56 To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

On 24 August 2013 00:42, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:

...

Is there a tool to get all the coordinates of a page (list) on a map like Google Maps or

other?

On en.Wikipedia, put {{KML}} on the page.

On other Wikipedias (that use a copy of en.Wikipedias {{Coord}}), make a version of that template ;-)

-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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On 24 August 2013 21:16, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:

hi, this display left me a little confused. so i checked on en:wp how last years ghana monument row looked like. and, it now also includes some strange text without somebody having changed the monuments row templates. but coord seems to be migrated to lua, so i posted a question here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lua_requests#help_with_wlm_coordinat... (but - i am very unsure if the two problems are related, or may have the same answers)

Fixed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AGhana_Monument_row&...

BTW, I repeat my suggestion that there should be a {{Project Wiki Loves Monuments}} (or suchlike) template on the talk pages of these row templates

On 24 August 2013 23:00, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

... and a category (or category tree). It doesn't seem possible, at the moment, to find all those types of template, Is there a list, somewhere?

I made:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monument_row_templates

please apply as relevant.

Hi Andy,

Op 24-8-2013 23:42, Andy Mabbett schreef:

BTW, I repeat my suggestion that there should be a {{Project Wiki Loves Monuments}} (or suchlike) template on the talk pages of these row templates

Missed that one, I suggest we use an existing wikiproject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Historic_sites A lot of the templates are already in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Historic_sites_article... . Maybe people can help to add it? I already did a couple

Op 25-8-2013 0:36, Andy Mabbett schreef:

On 24 August 2013 23:00, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

...

... and a category (or category tree). It doesn't seem possible, at the moment, to find all those types of template, Is there a list, somewhere?

I made:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monument_row_templates

please apply as relevant.

I would suggest to rename it to "Monument list templates" to make it in line with the parent category. Andy, can you do that as creator?

Maarten

On 25 August 2013 12:31, Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl wrote:

All the templates I could find are now in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monument_list_templates . The talk pages are tagged so they are in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Historic_sites_article... . If possible I also added the local wikiproject.

Thank you. I am going through them, adding hCard microformats <en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hCard> and documentation (much of which needs to be completed by people with closer knowledge of their working than I); and replacing hard-coded links to Google or other mapping servcies with {{coord}} templates.

Some of the templates are coded in HTML, not wikitable markup, which could be changed.

At some point, perhaps after this year's competition, we could usefully look at whether to merge at least some of these templates, which are very similar.

The name in coordinates must have a clean text without wiki markup or long descriptions, as well as description field for uploading to Commons. Parameters like "tri monument" or similar could be used for this purpose. I have made a workaround copying Module:Delink from en.wiki.

Vicenç

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:10:03 +0100 From: leaders_chtu@yahoo.fr To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi, I applied the same solution on https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le:Ligne_de_tableau_monu... However, when the name of the object has a link, the name is visible in the Coordinates section (ex. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_monuments_class%C3%A9s_du_gouvernora...). Do you know how it can be fixed? Regards,Mourad De : Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com À : "wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Envoyé le : Samedi 24 août 2013 15h59 Objet : Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

That is because a caché. Try in the Google bar to change last parameter &usecache=1 to &usecache=0, or try other lists supossedly not cached.

Vicenç

From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:52:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi Vincenç, Ok, but it still doesn’t indicate the object descriptions on the map. Instead it gives a number. – Have a look at the German example page for comparison! Cheers,Beat From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Vicenç Riullop Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 13:06 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map Basically, the row template was missing a title for coordinates: https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le%3ALigne_de_tableau_Mo...

Template https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Mapa_llista_coordenades includes OSM map like the German version. Although it misses some magics, the syntax is simpler to copy or understand.

Vicenç> From: beat.estermann@bfh.ch

To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 09:02:49 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

Hi,

This tool is working fine on German Wikipedia - Template: {{All Coordinates}} : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Kulturg%C3%BCter_in_Bern/Breitenrain-...

All the coordinates are indicated, along with the object description and a link to the wiki-page with the corresponding list.

However, it is not working properly on the French and Italian Wikipedias.

French - Template {{Modèle:GeoGroup}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_CH/Liste_de...

French - Template {{KML}}: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:L%C3%A9gende_du_tableau_Monuments_%...

In these cases, the coordinates are indicated, but the object description is missing (the link to the wiki-page is there). Seeing just numbered items on a map, without having the key of the number at hand, is not really helpful.

On Italian Wikipedia, these templates seem to be missing altogether.

It would be great if someone could look into these issues and let us

know what needs to be changed to make it work in French and Italian as well!

Cheers, Beat

...

-----Original Message----- From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2013 01:56 To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

On 24 August 2013 00:42, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:

...

Is there a tool to get all the coordinates of a page (list) on a map like Google Maps or

other?

On en.Wikipedia, put {{KML}} on the page.

On other Wikipedias (that use a copy of en.Wikipedias {{Coord}}), make a version of that template ;-)

-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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-----Original Message----- From: wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Cristian Consonni Sent: Montag, 26. August 2013 19:51 To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tool to get all coordinates of page on map

[...]

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GeoGroup (just exported Template:GeoGroup to it.wiki)

Thanks Cristian!

I've included it in the Swiss-Italian prototype page: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Monumenti_C...

For the purpose of the Swiss lists, I think it would be nice to have in a box on the right hand side, as in the French version: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_CH/Liste_de...

What do you think?

Beat