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Maarten Dammers

3 Oct 2012 3 Oct '12

7:21 p.m.

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Ynhockey

4 Oct 4 Oct

1:07 a.m.

Hi Maarten, I was under the impression that your bot could do this automatically if we filled the Commons Category field in the line template. Did I get the wrong impression? Thanks, —Yan (Ynhockey). On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl> wrote:

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Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be categorized or that are not used yet, see: * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_images… images to add to lists * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Categorizatio… images to categorize Help is much appreciated! Maarten _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Nkansah Rexford

3:16 a.m.

New subject: Fwd: Categorizing and using images

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Ynhockey* Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Categorizing and using images To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition < wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hi Maarten, I was under the impression that your bot could do this automatically if we filled the Commons Category field in the line template. Did I get the wrong impression? Thanks, —Yan (Ynhockey). On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'maarten(a)mdammers.nl');>

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Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be categorized or that are not used yet, see: * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_images… images to add to lists * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Categorizatio… images to categorize Help is much appreciated! Maarten _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org');> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

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Lodewijk

8:12 a.m.

Hi Yan, could you be more specific what you mean with 'this'? Did you read the pages Maarten linked (because they do point out which part of the process can happen by bot, and which requires manual work). Just checking :) Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/4 Ynhockey <ynhockey(a)gmail.com>

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Strainu

10:32 a.m.

2012/10/3 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>

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Ynhockey

10:52 a.m.

Lodewijk: Basically each template has a field like "Commons category". So what the bot has to do (and this is certainly possible) is to get the monument ID from the image, go to the monuments DB and get the relevant Commons category, and then add that category to the image on Commons. This is the very process described here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Categorizatio… However, it doesn't appear that the bot has been run yet for Israel, or alternatively it doesn't appear to be working. We don't have the commonscat field for all monuments, but definitely more than 0 which is the number categorized so far. How often is this bot run? Can I run it myself or request it to be run again? Cheers, —Yan (Ynhockey). On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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2012/10/3 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>

Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be categorized or that are not used yet, see: *

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_images

for images to add to lists

It would help if you would keep the monument ids as they were in the list (stop capitalizing them). I can't really use the list for automatic processing, nor can I guarantee the code is good without looking in the image page. Regards, Strainu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Lodewijk

8:09 p.m.

OK, so if the categorization page says it can happen, I guess it is possible (I cant check right now, working offline). Probably good to let Maarten check the situation for Israel indeed. Best, Lodewijk El jueves, 4 de octubre de 2012, Ynhockey escribió:

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2012/10/3 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'maarten(a)mdammers.nl');>>

Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be categorized or that are not used yet, see: *

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_images

for images to add to lists

It would help if you would keep the monument ids as they were in the list (stop capitalizing them). I can't really use the list for automatic processing, nor can I guarantee the code is good without looking in the image page. Regards, Strainu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org');> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Maarten Dammers

6 Oct 6 Oct

11:48 a.m.

Strainu, Op 4-10-2012 10:32, Strainu schreef:

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If you wouldn't have been such a dick over the last couple of weeks I would probably have looked into it. But you really acted like an asshole so I just going to invite you to use https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Monuments%20database You reap what you sow, Maarten

Strainu

8 Oct 8 Oct

10:53 a.m.

2012/10/6 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>nl>:

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Strainu, Op 4-10-2012 10:32, Strainu schreef:

I guess it's my turn to tell you to watch your mouth. The rest of your email does not deserve an answer. Just keep in mind what I told you on your userpage about not acting like you own the monuments infrastructure. Strainu

Tomasz W. Kozłowski

2:44 p.m.

On 8 October 2012 10:53, Strainu wrote:

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Nkansah Rexford

4:25 p.m.

+1 Tomasz On Monday, October 8, 2012, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote:

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On 8 October 2012 10:53, Strainu wrote:

I am just going to act as if I haven't seen Maarten's e-mail nor this reply to it. There are 214 people subscribed to this mailing list, and I think you guys can insult each other privately, without the whole world needing to know what you think of each other. Ideally, however, you should try to resolve this apparent conflict in a peaceful way; I know that you both have Wiki Loves Monument's best interest in your minds and hearts, and this is only (mis)communication problems that have ocurred. If you'd like to continue this topic, please do so offline, and let this thread be left for more usable purposes. Thank you. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

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Jane Darnell

9 Oct 9 Oct

10:42 a.m.

I agree. I feel somewhat to blame myself for not taking more trouble to understand the infrastructure so that everyone can read instructions in clean English, but my head hurts when I start going through those pages. It's not a good reason to get snippy with each other, and I don't believe ownership is the issue, but it is understandable. We really do need to keep the conversation here collegial, though! Jane Sent from my iPad On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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+1 Tomasz On Monday, October 8, 2012, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: On 8 October 2012 10:53, Strainu wrote:

I am just going to act as if I haven't seen Maarten's e-mail nor this reply to it. There are 214 people subscribed to this mailing list, and I think you guys can insult each other privately, without the whole world needing to know what you think of each other. Ideally, however, you should try to resolve this apparent conflict in a peaceful way; I know that you both have Wiki Loves Monument's best interest in your minds and hearts, and this is only (mis)communication problems that have ocurred. If you'd like to continue this topic, please do so offline, and let this thread be left for more usable purposes. Thank you. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- +Nyarko Rexford _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Cristian Consonni

4 Oct 4 Oct

5:58 p.m.

Il giorno 03/ott/2012 19:21, "Maarten Dammers" <maarten(a)mdammers.nl> ha scritto:

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Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be

categorized or that are not used yet, see:

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_images… images to add to lists Hi Marteen, I have asked in itwiki-l and Memo told me I can use the template {{commonscat}} which exists on it.wiki. So I only need to change that? C

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Cristian Consonni
Jane Darnell
Lodewijk
Maarten Dammers
Nkansah Rexford
Strainu
Tomasz W. Kozłowski
Ynhockey