Hi everyone,
Wiki Loves Monuments will (hopefully/probably) attract a lot of new users to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons is a very nice project, but it can be very scary and hostile for new users. On the English Wikipedia they have a new project called the Teahouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse). This is a friendly place to (peer) support new users created because the English Wikipedia deals we the challenge as we do.
What do you guys think of setting up a similar place as the Teahouse at Commons for the months September and October to help welcome and keep our new community members? I made up the name "Château" because that sounds friendlier that "castle" and makes me think of a historic building. This is all open for discussion, but I'm especially interested if people like the concept and would be willing to help out on this.
Maarten
On 21/08/12 22:21, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi everyone,
Wiki Loves Monuments will (hopefully/probably) attract a lot of new users to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons is a very nice project, but it can be very scary and hostile for new users. On the English Wikipedia they have a new project called the Teahouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse). This is a friendly place to (peer) support new users created because the English Wikipedia deals we the challenge as we do.
What do you guys think of setting up a similar place as the Teahouse at Commons for the months September and October to help welcome and keep our new community members? I made up the name "Château" because that sounds friendlier that "castle" and makes me think of a historic building. This is all open for discussion, but I'm especially interested if people like the concept and would be willing to help out on this.
Maarten
That looks like a nice concept!
I am totally open for the concept (although I wouldn't like to be the one answering everything!). Just a minor suggestion: lets pick something that is easier to spell ;) We Dutchies might be used to complicated French spelling, but I'm afraid not everyone is as lucky to have been tortured with that language in high school :) (no offence!) Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders. But the name is not the important issue of course, and I'm happy to let us give the concept a shot.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/8/21 Platonides platonides@gmail.com
On 21/08/12 22:21, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi everyone,
Wiki Loves Monuments will (hopefully/probably) attract a lot of new users to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons is a very nice project, but it can be very scary and hostile for new users. On the English Wikipedia they have a new project called the Teahouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse). This is a friendly place to (peer) support new users created because the English Wikipedia deals we the challenge as we do.
What do you guys think of setting up a similar place as the Teahouse at Commons for the months September and October to help welcome and keep our new community members? I made up the name "Château" because that sounds friendlier that "castle" and makes me think of a historic building. This is all open for discussion, but I'm especially interested if people like the concept and would be willing to help out on this.
Maarten
That looks like a nice concept!
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What's wrong with using the same name, teahouse?
- Sent from my mobile device On Aug 21, 2012 11:53 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
I am totally open for the concept (although I wouldn't like to be the one answering everything!). Just a minor suggestion: lets pick something that is easier to spell ;) We Dutchies might be used to complicated French spelling, but I'm afraid not everyone is as lucky to have been tortured with that language in high school :) (no offence!) Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders. But the name is not the important issue of course, and I'm happy to let us give the concept a shot.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/8/21 Platonides platonides@gmail.com
On 21/08/12 22:21, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi everyone,
Wiki Loves Monuments will (hopefully/probably) attract a lot of new users to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons is a very nice project, but it can be very scary and hostile for new users. On the English Wikipedia they have a new project called the Teahouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse). This is a friendly place to (peer) support new users created because the English Wikipedia deals we the challenge as we do.
What do you guys think of setting up a similar place as the Teahouse at Commons for the months September and October to help welcome and keep our new community members? I made up the name "Château" because that sounds friendlier that "castle" and makes me think of a historic building. This is all open for discussion, but I'm especially interested if people like the concept and would be willing to help out on this.
Maarten
That looks like a nice concept!
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What's a teahouse? I've never heard of a teahouse? It's so Anglophone-centric... :-)) The English Wiktionary lists some great hyponyms for "pub" at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisaurus:pub, maybe we can get some inspiration from there?
How about the Heritage Café, for example? :-))
What about something photography-related? Is "Darkroom" too negative and anachronistic? Does anyone younger than me know what those are ;) ?
-Matthew
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.wiki@gmail.comwrote:
What's a teahouse? I've never heard of a teahouse? It's so Anglophone-centric... :-)) The English Wiktionary lists some great hyponyms for "pub" at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisaurus:pub, maybe we can get some inspiration from there?
How about the Heritage Café, for example? :-))
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I'm afraid 'darkroom' would get totally different associations over here although if you explain it, people will know what it originally meant... Aside from that I'd be happy with photography names of course.
Lodewijk
2012/8/21 Matthew Roth mroth@wikimedia.org
What about something photography-related? Is "Darkroom" too negative and anachronistic? Does anyone younger than me know what those are ;) ?
-Matthew
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski < odder.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
What's a teahouse? I've never heard of a teahouse? It's so Anglophone-centric... :-)) The English Wiktionary lists some great hyponyms for "pub" at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisaurus:pub, maybe we can get some inspiration from there?
How about the Heritage Café, for example? :-))
-- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]]
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El 21/08/12 23:24, Matthew Roth escribió:
What about something photography-related? Is "Darkroom" too negative and anachronistic? Does anyone younger than me know what those are ;) ?
-Matthew
It is indeed "negative" ;) It's likely placed in the dungeons of that castle...
I got easily what translates to, but taken without context it's maybe a bit intimidating to tell someone to go to [[Commons:Darkroom]] :)
El 21/08/12 22:52, Lodewijk escribió:
I am totally open for the concept (although I wouldn't like to be the one answering everything!). Just a minor suggestion: lets pick something that is easier to spell ;) We Dutchies might be used to complicated French spelling, but I'm afraid not everyone is as lucky to have been tortured with that language in high school :) (no offence!) Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders. But the name is not the important issue of course, and I'm happy to let us give the concept a shot.
Best, Lodewijk
A Château makes me think in a place like Versailles, ie. more a Palace than a Castle. Commons:Palace, the place where we invite the newcomers, perhaps ?
(French speaker here.)
I love the idea.
Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org writes:
Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders.
I agree. What about "the bridge"?
It's more welcoming.
Ooh, I like the bridge concept! Sounds windy, but like a good theme to build on.
Lodewijk
2012/8/22 Bastien bzg@altern.org
(French speaker here.)
I love the idea.
Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org writes:
Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders.
I agree. What about "the bridge"?
It's more welcoming.
-- Bastien
I prefer bridge than castle or château as these may sound too eurocentric. For a photographic term, what about tripod? Commons:Tripod suggests a photo helpdesk.
Vicenç
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:09:36 +0200 To: bzg@altern.org CC: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments Château
Ooh, I like the bridge concept! Sounds windy, but like a good theme to build on. Lodewijk
2012/8/22 Bastien bzg@altern.org
(French speaker here.)
I love the idea.
Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org writes:
Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something
you're trying to defend from outsiders.
I agree. What about "the bridge"?
It's more welcoming.
--
Bastien
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I like tripod. Meaning three legs and something which is stable and thus,supportive.
/ Sophie.
2012/8/22 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
I prefer bridge than castle or château as these may sound too eurocentric. For a photographic term, what about tripod? Commons:Tripod suggests a photo helpdesk.
Vicenç
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:09:36 +0200 To: bzg@altern.org CC: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments Château
Ooh, I like the bridge concept! Sounds windy, but like a good theme to build on.
Lodewijk
2012/8/22 Bastien bzg@altern.org
(French speaker here.)
I love the idea.
Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org writes:
Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders.
I agree. What about "the bridge"?
It's more welcoming.
-- Bastien
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Oh, this is difficult. My 2 cents: château : difficult to write/spell, not very explicit. darkroom: scary bridge: windy, but I like it tripod: you wouldn't understand it, actually.
I would propose something like "the square". I don't know if it's too eurocentric, but from the Greek "agorà" it is a place to meet and talk, it reminds of public and historical places to, and it's sunny and you can eat gelato waliking and making pictures :-) I would say Agorà it's better than square, don't know if everyone knows the meaning.
Aubrey
2012/8/22 Sophie Österberg eihpossophie@gmail.com
I like tripod. Meaning three legs and something which is stable and thus,supportive.
/ Sophie.
2012/8/22 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
I prefer bridge than castle or château as these may sound too eurocentric. For a photographic term, what about tripod? Commons:Tripod suggests a photo helpdesk.
Vicenç
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:09:36 +0200 To: bzg@altern.org CC: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments Château
Ooh, I like the bridge concept! Sounds windy, but like a good theme to build on.
Lodewijk
2012/8/22 Bastien bzg@altern.org
(French speaker here.)
I love the idea.
Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org writes:
Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders.
I agree. What about "the bridge"?
It's more welcoming.
-- Bastien
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Why use that sort of name at all? I think WLM Helpdesk is more informative.
/Jan Ainali
(skickat med min Galaxy Nexus så jag ber om ursäkt om jag är kortfattad) Den 22 aug 2012 11:05 skrev "Andrea Zanni" zanni.andrea84@gmail.com:
Oh, this is difficult. My 2 cents: château : difficult to write/spell, not very explicit. darkroom: scary bridge: windy, but I like it tripod: you wouldn't understand it, actually.
I would propose something like "the square". I don't know if it's too eurocentric, but from the Greek "agorà" it is a place to meet and talk, it reminds of public and historical places to, and it's sunny and you can eat gelato waliking and making pictures :-) I would say Agorà it's better than square, don't know if everyone knows the meaning.
Aubrey
2012/8/22 Sophie Österberg eihpossophie@gmail.com
I like tripod. Meaning three legs and something which is stable and thus,supportive.
/ Sophie.
2012/8/22 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
I prefer bridge than castle or château as these may sound too eurocentric. For a photographic term, what about tripod? Commons:Tripod suggests a photo helpdesk.
Vicenç
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:09:36 +0200 To: bzg@altern.org CC: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments Château
Ooh, I like the bridge concept! Sounds windy, but like a good theme to build on.
Lodewijk
2012/8/22 Bastien bzg@altern.org
(French speaker here.)
I love the idea.
Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org writes:
Also a castle gives me mostly the feeling of something you're trying to defend from outsiders.
I agree. What about "the bridge"?
It's more welcoming.
-- Bastien
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Op 22-8-2012 11:08, Jan Ainali schreef:
Why use that sort of name at all? I think WLM Helpdesk is more informative.
Enough about the name. Is anyone willing to set this up and help maintain it? I think this could really make the difference but I don't have the time to set this up myself.
Maarten
Op 27-8-2012 23:05, Maarten Dammers schreef:
Op 22-8-2012 11:08, Jan Ainali schreef:
Why use that sort of name at all? I think WLM Helpdesk is more informative.
Enough about the name. Is anyone willing to set this up and help maintain it? I think this could really make the difference but I don't have the time to set this up myself.
Oh, and of course the person who sets this up can decide on the name ;-)
Maarten
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Help_desk I kept it very simple. But at least a simple help desk is a place people can go to to ask their questions. The intro can use some improvement, or somebody can come up with a different style of help desk. I've created this one with the idea "beter iets dan niets" (better something then nothing). Mvg, Bas
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:06:24 +0200 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments Château
Op 27-8-2012 23:05, Maarten Dammers schreef:
Op 22-8-2012 11:08, Jan Ainali schreef:
Why use that sort of name at all? I think WLM Helpdesk is more informative.
Enough about the name. Is anyone willing to set this up and help maintain it? I think this could really make the difference but I don't have the time to set this up myself.
Oh, and of course the person who sets this up can decide on the name ;-)
Maarten
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Great idea, Maarten.
+1 for Commons Tripod - has all the right associations.
This is intended to be more general than WLM, correct?
I can socialize this with Siko, Sarah, Maggie and a couple Commons admins.
Phil
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Bas vb basvb_wikipedia@live.nl wrote:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Help_desk
I kept it very simple. But at least a simple help desk is a place people can go to to ask their questions.
The intro can use some improvement, or somebody can come up with a different style of help desk. I've created this one with the idea "beter iets dan niets" (better something then nothing).
Mvg,
Bas
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:06:24 +0200 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments Château
Op 27-8-2012 23:05, Maarten Dammers schreef:
Op 22-8-2012 11:08, Jan Ainali schreef:
Why use that sort of name at all? I think WLM Helpdesk is more informative.
Enough about the name. Is anyone willing to set this up and help maintain it? I think this could really make the difference but I don't have the time to set this up myself.
Oh, and of course the person who sets this up can decide on the name ;-)
Maarten
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2012/8/21 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl:
Hi everyone,
Wiki Loves Monuments will (hopefully/probably) attract a lot of new users to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons is a very nice project, but it can be very scary and hostile for new users. On the English Wikipedia they have a new project called the Teahouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse). This is a friendly place to (peer) support new users created because the English Wikipedia deals we the challenge as we do.
What do you guys think of setting up a similar place as the Teahouse at Commons for the months September and October to help welcome and keep our new community members? I made up the name "Château" because that sounds friendlier that "castle" and makes me think of a historic building. This is all open for discussion, but I'm especially interested if people like the concept and would be willing to help out on this.
I love the concept and I love the name "Château", it is a French word by I think it's a quite common and well-know one. (but I'm biased since I have studied French many years at school)
Cristian
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