I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit for search results.
Jonathan
-------- Original message -------- From: Racso racso@colombia.com Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, and start over again.
Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the error-fixing process as easy as possible.
For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror" means that the photo filename should be changed.
Racso
2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 aktron@centrum.cz: Yes, I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years. So they were kindly asked to change the filename... Aktron Wikimedia Czech Republic chairman ______________________________________________________________
Od: KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
Hi Rasco,
I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
We should (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new name -- rather than give an option to retry.
Taweetham
On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote: DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text for that field can be made clearer.
Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige 0729 - 67 29 48
Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör. Bli medlem.
2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso racso@colombia.com:
I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the filename, and it worked. That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g. DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. Racso
2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage:
77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg <api-error-unknownerror> None of the uploads were successful.
Retry failed uploads
Anyone has done a successful test upload?
On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
It is now fixed. Thank you.
On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still say that the contest has not started yet?
Romaine
2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com:
Same here Pakistan
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 From: pierre-selim@huard.info To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet...
Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-)
2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
Hello All,
This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand time or 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following message.
"Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still share your images, but they will not be eligible for the competition."
The URL is
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&cam... 13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999
Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions?
Many thanks, Taweetham
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
-- Pierre-Selim
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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improving the error message would probably be more instructive and helpful in the long run :) Just give people an advice how to act (i.e. add the date)
2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers werespielchequers@gmail.com:
I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit for search results.
Jonathan
-------- Original message -------- From: Racso Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, and start over again.
Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the error-fixing process as easy as possible.
For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror" means that the photo filename should be changed.
Racso
2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 aktron@centrum.cz:
Yes,
I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years.
So they were kindly asked to change the filename...
Aktron
Wikimedia Czech Republic
chairman
Od: KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
notstarted yet...
Hi Rasco,
I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
We should (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new name -- rather than give an option to retry.
Taweetham
On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text for that field can be made clearer.
*Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso racso@colombia.com:
I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the
filename, and it worked. That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g. DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. Racso
2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage:
77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg
<api-error-unknownerror> None of the uploads were successful.
Retry failed uploads
Anyone has done a successful test upload?
On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
It is now fixed. Thank you.
On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still say
that the
> contest has not started yet? > > Romaine > > > 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com: > >> Same here Pakistan >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 >> From: pierre-selim@huard.info >> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
not
>> started yet... >> >> >> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-) >> >> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com: >> >> Hello All, >> >> This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand time or >> 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following
message.
>> >> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. >> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still share
your
>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition." >> >> The URL is >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&cam...
>> >> Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions? >> >> Many thanks, >> Taweetham >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pierre-Selim >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves
Monuments
>> mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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Rather than random, a timestamp down to second level would be better. The likelyhood for a previous file to be named like that is close to zero and removes any problem of the need to check if the randomly produced number has been used before. Also the added information has some value as metadata, particulary in comparison to a random number. But still, DSC_XXXXX or IMG_XXXXXX style file names should be prevented.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers werespielchequers@gmail.com:
I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit for search results.
Jonathan
-------- Original message -------- From: Racso Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, and start over again.
Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the error-fixing process as easy as possible.
For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror" means that the photo filename should be changed.
Racso
2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 aktron@centrum.cz:
Yes,
I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years.
So they were kindly asked to change the filename...
Aktron
Wikimedia Czech Republic
chairman
Od: KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
notstarted yet...
Hi Rasco,
I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
We should (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new name -- rather than give an option to retry.
Taweetham
On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text for that field can be made clearer.
*Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso racso@colombia.com:
I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the
filename, and it worked. That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g. DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. Racso
2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage:
77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg
<api-error-unknownerror> None of the uploads were successful.
Retry failed uploads
Anyone has done a successful test upload?
On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
It is now fixed. Thank you.
On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still say
that the
> contest has not started yet? > > Romaine > > > 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com: > >> Same here Pakistan >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 >> From: pierre-selim@huard.info >> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
not
>> started yet... >> >> >> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-) >> >> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com: >> >> Hello All, >> >> This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand time or >> 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following
message.
>> >> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. >> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still share
your
>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition." >> >> The URL is >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&cam...
>> >> Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions? >> >> Many thanks, >> Taweetham >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pierre-Selim >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves
Monuments
>> mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
My few cts, As a user, I don't care about Filename, honnestly it doesn't bring any value to me, it just brings me headache. I don't care how the filesystem of the media are stored, what matters to me is the metadata of my file.
I try to give relevant filename, because the community ask for it, due to having a software that ridiculously do not fit our needs, but that's the only reason why. And I guess some new users are really lost when trying to do their first upload.
2014-09-01 20:45 GMT+02:00 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se:
Rather than random, a timestamp down to second level would be better. The likelyhood for a previous file to be named like that is close to zero and removes any problem of the need to check if the randomly produced number has been used before. Also the added information has some value as metadata, particulary in comparison to a random number. But still, DSC_XXXXX or IMG_XXXXXX style file names should be prevented.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers werespielchequers@gmail.com :
I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit for search results.
Jonathan
-------- Original message -------- From: Racso Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, and start over again.
Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the error-fixing process as easy as possible.
For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror" means that the photo filename should be changed.
Racso
2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 aktron@centrum.cz:
Yes,
I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years.
So they were kindly asked to change the filename...
Aktron
Wikimedia Czech Republic
chairman
Od: KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
notstarted yet...
Hi Rasco,
I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
We should (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new name -- rather than give an option to retry.
Taweetham
On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text for that field can be made clearer.
*Med vänliga hälsningar, Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso racso@colombia.com:
I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the
filename, and it worked. That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g. DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. Racso
2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage:
77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg
<api-error-unknownerror> None of the uploads were successful.
Retry failed uploads
Anyone has done a successful test upload?
On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote: > It is now fixed. Thank you. > > On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote: >> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still say that the >> contest has not started yet? >> >> Romaine >> >> >> 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com: >> >>> Same here Pakistan >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 >>> From: pierre-selim@huard.info >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not >>> started yet... >>> >>> >>> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-) >>> >>> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com: >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand time or >>> 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following message. >>> >>> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. >>> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still share your >>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition." >>> >>> The URL is >>> >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&cam... 13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat=13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 >>> >>> Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions? >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> Taweetham >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pierre-Selim >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments >>> mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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the primary reason why i would strongly encourage the new users to pick a relevant name is to make their life easier - i would hate it to see them get ugly templates on their talkpage and files renamed because people think it is problematic. So yeah, maybe you're right, but this seems just the most sensible thing to advise :) This is the software and community we have to work with.
Lodewijk
2014-09-01 20:53 GMT+02:00 Pierre-Selim pierre-selim@huard.info:
My few cts, As a user, I don't care about Filename, honnestly it doesn't bring any value to me, it just brings me headache. I don't care how the filesystem of the media are stored, what matters to me is the metadata of my file.
I try to give relevant filename, because the community ask for it, due to having a software that ridiculously do not fit our needs, but that's the only reason why. And I guess some new users are really lost when trying to do their first upload.
2014-09-01 20:45 GMT+02:00 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se:
Rather than random, a timestamp down to second level would be better. The
likelyhood for a previous file to be named like that is close to zero and removes any problem of the need to check if the randomly produced number has been used before. Also the added information has some value as metadata, particulary in comparison to a random number. But still, DSC_XXXXX or IMG_XXXXXX style file names should be prevented.
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2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers <werespielchequers@gmail.com
:
I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit for search results.
Jonathan
-------- Original message -------- From: Racso Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, and start over again.
Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the error-fixing process as easy as possible.
For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror" means that the photo filename should be changed.
Racso
2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 aktron@centrum.cz:
Yes,
I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years.
So they were kindly asked to change the filename...
Aktron
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Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
notstarted yet...
Hi Rasco,
I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
We should (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new name -- rather than give an option to retry.
Taweetham
On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text for that field can be made clearer.
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2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso racso@colombia.com:
I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the
filename, and it worked. That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g. DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. Racso
2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage: > > 77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg > <api-error-unknownerror> > None of the uploads were successful. > > Retry failed uploads > > Anyone has done a successful test upload? > > On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote: > > It is now fixed. Thank you. > > > > On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still say > that the > >> contest has not started yet? > >> > >> Romaine > >> > >> > >> 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com > >: > >> > >>> Same here Pakistan > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 > >>> From: pierre-selim@huard.info > >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 > has not > >>> started yet... > >>> > >>> > >>> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-) > >>> > >>> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com: > >>> > >>> Hello All, > >>> > >>> This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand time > or > >>> 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following > message. > >>> > >>> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. > >>> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still > share your > >>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition." > >>> > >>> The URL is > >>> > >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&cam... > 13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat=13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 > >>> > >>> Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions? > >>> > >>> Many thanks, > >>> Taweetham > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Pierre-Selim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves > Monuments > >>> mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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For duplicated filenames you get a warning during upload (at least you did a few months ago). This assumes you are using the upload wizard.
It might be that filenames which trigger the advise filter give an error afterwards instead . If so a bug/enhancement report to do this on the fly would be an option.
------ André Costa GLAM-tekniker Wikimedia Sverige On 1 Sep 2014 20:57, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
the primary reason why i would strongly encourage the new users to pick a relevant name is to make their life easier - i would hate it to see them get ugly templates on their talkpage and files renamed because people think it is problematic. So yeah, maybe you're right, but this seems just the most sensible thing to advise :) This is the software and community we have to work with.
Lodewijk
2014-09-01 20:53 GMT+02:00 Pierre-Selim pierre-selim@huard.info:
My few cts, As a user, I don't care about Filename, honnestly it doesn't bring any value to me, it just brings me headache. I don't care how the filesystem of the media are stored, what matters to me is the metadata of my file.
I try to give relevant filename, because the community ask for it, due to having a software that ridiculously do not fit our needs, but that's the only reason why. And I guess some new users are really lost when trying to do their first upload.
2014-09-01 20:45 GMT+02:00 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se:
Rather than random, a timestamp down to second level would be better. The
likelyhood for a previous file to be named like that is close to zero and removes any problem of the need to check if the randomly produced number has been used before. Also the added information has some value as metadata, particulary in comparison to a random number. But still, DSC_XXXXX or IMG_XXXXXX style file names should be prevented.
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*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2014-09-01 20:13 GMT+02:00 werespielchequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com>:
I wonder if we could change the upload so it added a random suffix to non-unique file names? That way the uploads would still work, and we wouldn't lose the meaningful part of file names - sometimes the best bit for search results.
Jonathan
-------- Original message -------- From: Racso Date:01/09/2014 17:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has notstarted yet...
It's clear that obscure names should be discouraged (for Wikimedia Commons standards), but right now we may discourage participation with that limitation. There isn't even an option to pick a new filename when an error occurs in the UploadWizard; you have to start the upload process all over again. Also, there isn't a quick way to check if the filename that is about to be used is already occupied or not; you have to save, get the API error, and start over again.
Also, please note that the problem isn't limited only to obscure names. The "Eiffel TowerX.jpg" (for several values of X, and with no X) name is already occupied. The same may happen to popular monuments on each country.
That said, I insist: we should make participation as easy as possible. In most photo repositories (everyone except Commons?), you don't even need to assign names to uploaded files; they are automatically generated. Yes, they end being obscure, random names such as 12309803.jpg, but nobody cares about that! We can't change Commons naming policies right now, but we can, at least, help participants by reducing name collisions or making the error-fixing process as easy as possible.
For now, I'll try to explain in WLM-CO instructions that an "api-error-unknownerror" means that the photo filename should be changed.
Racso
2014-09-01 4:53 GMT-05:00 aktron@centrum.cz:
Yes,
I have received some e-mails from various people that they do have this issue in WLM CZ. I do believe however it is a filename issue, as it is highly logical to expect files named IMG_401.JPG to be kinda problem to upload... as pretty much everyone tried to do so in past 10 years.
So they were kindly asked to change the filename...
Aktron
Wikimedia Czech Republic
chairman
Od: KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com Komu: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Datum: 01.09.2014 11:11 Předmět: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has
notstarted yet...
Hi Rasco,
I confirmed that "<api-error-unknownerror>" is a filename problem.
We should (1) tell the uploader that it is a filename issue. (2) allow them to go back to the page where the uploader may give a new name -- rather than give an option to retry.
Taweetham
On 1 September 2014 14:06, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
DSC0001 - 28392 is an obscure file name and should really be discouraged. File names should be descriptive. If anything, the help text for that field can be made clearer.
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2014-09-01 9:00 GMT+02:00 Racso racso@colombia.com:
I had that error when doing a test upload. I retried, changing the > filename, and it worked. > That made me wonder: Is there a way for making the UploadWizard to > append a random number to the default filename? I'm pretty sure lots of > participants will have trouble because of trying to upload images with > already occupied filenames, specially if the names come from cameras (e.g. > DSC0001). If a random number is appended to the name (e.g. DSC0001 - > 28392), we would heavily reduce this problem. > Racso > > > 2014-08-31 22:42 GMT-05:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com: > > However, it now has another problem at "Describe" stage: >> >> 77px-Örebro_slott_resynth.jpg >> <api-error-unknownerror> >> None of the uploads were successful. >> >> Retry failed uploads >> >> Anyone has done a successful test upload? >> >> On 1 September 2014 10:09, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote: >> > It is now fixed. Thank you. >> > >> > On 1 September 2014 09:21, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >> I think this is a known bug of the upload wizard. Is it still >> say that the >> >> contest has not started yet? >> >> >> >> Romaine >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-09-01 2:16 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com >> >: >> >> >> >>> Same here Pakistan >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 02:15:51 +0200 >> >>> From: pierre-selim@huard.info >> >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 >> has not >> >>> started yet... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Same here when I tried to submit an image to UK contest :-) >> >>> >> >>> 2014-09-01 2:13 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com: >> >>> >> >>> Hello All, >> >>> >> >>> This is a message from WMTH. This is about 7:05am Thailand >> time or >> >>> 00:05 (UTC). I try to do a test upload and see the following >> message. >> >>> >> >>> "Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 has not started yet. >> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments will start in September. You may still >> share your >> >>> images, but they will not be eligible for the competition." >> >>> >> >>> The URL is >> >>> >> >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&cam... >> 13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-th&id=0000024&descriptionlang=th&description=%5B%5B%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%87%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A8%5D%5D&lat=13.759925059999986&lon=100.5016259999999 >> >>> >> >>> Anyone got the same problem? Any solutions? >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks, >> >>> Taweetham >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Pierre-Selim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves >> Monuments >> >>> mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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