Hi all,
it is almost August, that means it is time to get the banners ready! :) For this, we need your help and input.
On http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/CentralN... you can find a detailed description on how we plan to move forward. There may be some technical changes, but we will still need the translations in all relevant languages of the banner, and the link to the regular landing page. You can provide that on that page. Please put your information on the talkpage or in an email in this thread if you don't know how to edit a wikitable.
Also, we need like last year for every country a one page description page in English (if your regular website doesn't happen to be in English). An example is http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/english (maybe with a little less detail). We need this in case that there are foreigners living in your country who want to participate, or tourists who visited your country. We want to link to that English page from our main wikilovesmonuments.orgwebsite and we ask you to link from it from your landing page with a clear icon or something (i.e. a British flag with the word 'English'). Please link this from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress (third table) or again, just add it in the talkpage or in this thread if you don't know how to edit.
Thanks for your help on this!
Lodewijk
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
it is almost August, that means it is time to get the banners ready! :) For this, we need your help and input.
On http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/CentralN... you can find a detailed description on how we plan to move forward. There may be some technical changes, but we will still need the translations in all relevant languages of the banner, and the link to the regular landing page. You can provide that on that page. Please put your information on the talkpage or in an email in this thread if you don't know how to edit a wikitable.
Also, we need like last year for every country a one page description page in English (if your regular website doesn't happen to be in English). An example is http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/english (maybe with a little less detail). We need this in case that there are foreigners living in your country who want to participate, or tourists who visited your country. We want to link to that English page from our main wikilovesmonuments.org website and we ask you to link from it from your landing page with a clear icon or something (i.e. a British flag with the word 'English'). Please link this from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress (third table) or again, just add it in the talkpage or in this thread if you don't know how to edit.
Thanks for your help on this!
Lodewijk
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Is it possible to geo-target the CentralNotice, for example, the largest share of visitors from Belarus reads Russian Wikipeda, so WLM-BY CentralNotice for Belarusian visitors in Russian Wikipedia would be more relevant.
Hi,
As explained on the page (if that isn't clear enough, please say so) the notice will ge geotargeted on a country level. Narrower than that is currently unfortunately not possible. This geotargeting determines which link people will be sent to.
They will see the message in the language of their user interface, uselang (if I understand correctly). For most people this will simply mean they see it in the language of the Wikipedia they are visiting. So if you are visiting the French Wikipedia anonymously and your user interface is thus in French, you will get a French language invitation.
Kind regards, Lodewijk
2012/7/30 Paul Selitskas p.selitskas@gmail.com
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
it is almost August, that means it is time to get the banners ready! :)
For
this, we need your help and input.
On
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/CentralN...
you can find a detailed description on how we plan to move forward. There may be some technical changes, but we will still need the translations in all relevant languages of the banner, and the link to the regular landing page. You can provide that on that page. Please put your information on
the
talkpage or in an email in this thread if you don't know how to edit a wikitable.
Also, we need like last year for every country a one page description
page
in English (if your regular website doesn't happen to be in English). An example is http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/english (maybe with a little less detail). We need this in case that there are foreigners living in
your
country who want to participate, or tourists who visited your country. We want to link to that English page from our main wikilovesmonuments.org website and we ask you to link from it from your landing page with a
clear
icon or something (i.e. a British flag with the word 'English'). Please
link
this from
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress
(third table) or again, just add it in the talkpage or in this thread if
you
don't know how to edit.
Thanks for your help on this!
Lodewijk
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Is it possible to geo-target the CentralNotice, for example, the largest share of visitors from Belarus reads Russian Wikipeda, so WLM-BY CentralNotice for Belarusian visitors in Russian Wikipedia would be more relevant.
-- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selitskas@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi Paul,
Op 30-7-2012 21:56, Paul Selitskas schreef:
Is it possible to geo-target the CentralNotice, for example, the largest share of visitors from Belarus reads Russian Wikipeda, so WLM-BY CentralNotice for Belarusian visitors in Russian Wikipedia would be more relevant.
To add to what Lodewijk said: Any Wikimedia site (Wikipedia, Commons, etc) will have the banner. When the view is in Belarus it will link to your site. So in September if you visit the Russian Wikipedia and your user language is Russian, you'll get a nice banner in Russian linking to the WLM Belarus site. In my case I would get a message in English (my user language at the Russian Wikipedia) linking to http://wikilovesmonuments.nl
Maarten
On 30/07/12 22:35, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi Paul,
To add to what Lodewijk said: Any Wikimedia site (Wikipedia, Commons, etc) will have the banner. When the view is in Belarus it will link to your site. So in September if you visit the Russian Wikipedia and your user language is Russian, you'll get a nice banner in Russian linking to the WLM Belarus site. In my case I would get a message in English (my user language at the Russian Wikipedia) linking to http://wikilovesmonuments.nl
Maarten
Can we get the uselang, too? (eg. by adding $uselang in the target url) So not only is the banner in the appropiate language but the user is sent to a website the appropiate language, too. (if supported)
2012/7/31 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
Can we get the uselang, too? (eg. by adding $uselang in the target url) So not only is the banner in the appropiate language but the user is sent to a website the appropiate language, too. (if supported)
Why would we want to do that? And if we do that, where would we send people with English as language?
Strainu
On 31/07/12 09:31, Strainu wrote:
2012/7/31 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
Can we get the uselang, too? (eg. by adding $uselang in the target url) So not only is the banner in the appropiate language but the user is sent to a website the appropiate language, too. (if supported)
Why would we want to do that?
So that the user is sent to the local website in the appropiate language.
And if we do that, where would we send people with English as language?
To the page in English language, of course :)
For instance, we provide the url as http://www.wikilm.es/$lang/ and the users are sent to: http://www.wikilm.es/es/ http://www.wikilm.es/en/ ...
2012/7/31 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
On 31/07/12 09:31, Strainu wrote:
2012/7/31 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
Can we get the uselang, too? (eg. by adding $uselang in the target url) So not only is the banner in the appropiate language but the user is sent to a website the appropiate language, too. (if supported)
Why would we want to do that?
So that the user is sent to the local website in the appropiate language.
And if we do that, where would we send people with English as language?
To the page in English language, of course :)
For instance, we provide the url as http://www.wikilm.es/$lang/ and the users are sent to: http://www.wikilm.es/es/ http://www.wikilm.es/en/
Oh, OK, my understanding was that you want to send people with uselang=fr but located in Romania to wikilovesmonuments.fr, which doesn't make a lot of sense.
Still, your idea doesn't scale well without changes to the server configuration, which I'm not sure is possible on all the websites (e,g, Spain will need to have /es, /en, /cat and possibly /fr, /pt etc.). I think that as long as the pages in other languages are visibly linked from the main page, we're ok with redirecting to the main page of the site.
Strainu
On 31/07/12 11:11, Strainu wrote:
For instance, we provide the url as http://www.wikilm.es/$lang/ and the users are sent to: http://www.wikilm.es/es/ http://www.wikilm.es/en/
Oh, OK, my understanding was that you want to send people with uselang=fr but located in Romania to wikilovesmonuments.fr, which doesn't make a lot of sense.
Still, your idea doesn't scale well without changes to the server configuration, which I'm not sure is possible on all the websites (e,g, Spain will need to have /es, /en, /cat and possibly /fr, /pt etc.). I think that as long as the pages in other languages are visibly linked from the main page, we're ok with redirecting to the main page of the site.
Strainu
A local site without such parameters could be configured with an url without the magic $LANG bit.
Regards
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org