Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
I have created a template with a link to Google Maps that shows all coordinates via toolserver. See http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_del_Barcelon%C3%A8s and click on "mapa".
It would be great if that could be done with OpenStreetMap and with an inline map.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:48:51 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi, I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth.2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas. Thanks a lot, Joan.
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Hi, On french wikipédia we've got a template called KML which creates links to OSM, Google maps, Bing maps and allows user to download coordinates of the page in a KML file. The template is located there : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:KML .
You can see an exemple in action at the end of this article : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_monuments_historiques_de_Bordeaux#Lie...
hope this helps.
Sylvain
2011/2/13 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
I have created a template with a link to Google Maps that shows all coordinates via toolserver. See http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_del_Barcelon%C3%A8s and click on "mapa".
It would be great if that could be done with OpenStreetMap and with an inline map.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:48:51 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
- Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even
though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Wow, it seems great! I wonder if it could be adapted and, in the description, show the ID number or other relevant data for photographers.
Joan.
2011/2/13 Sylvain Machefert smachefert@gmail.com
Hi, On french wikipédia we've got a template called KML which creates links to OSM, Google maps, Bing maps and allows user to download coordinates of the page in a KML file. The template is located there : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:KML .
You can see an exemple in action at the end of this article :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_monuments_historiques_de_Bordeaux#Lie...
hope this helps.
Sylvain
2011/2/13 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
I have created a template with a link to Google Maps that shows all coordinates via toolserver. See http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_del_Barcelon%C3%A8s and click on "mapa".
It would be great if that could be done with OpenStreetMap and with an inline map.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:48:51 +0100 From: joan.creus.c@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
- Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even
though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef:
Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
- Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even
though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taul... named Plantilla:Filera XX
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef: Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard
Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Hi Vicenç,
Op 13-2-2011 20:54, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.
Great! That makes it a lot easier for me to add it to the database.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taul... named Plantilla:Filera XX
Separate templates are probably easier. Let's see if I get this - BC Sard - Monuments of Sardinia, can't find the ISO code for Sardinia, does anyone happen to know it? - BIC - Monuments in Spain, so the table name will be monuments_es_(ca) - BIC Val - Monuments in Valencia, so the table name will be monuments_es-vc. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca) - BCIN - Monuments in Catalonia, so the table name will be monuments_es-ct. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
Maarten
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef:
Hi, I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example: 1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read. Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
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Right, Maarten.
ISO code for Sardinia is IT-88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:IT), so the coordinates have region:IT-88
We have also the templates "Filera BIC And" for Andorra (code ad) and "Filera MH" for France.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:56:19 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Vicenç,
Op 13-2-2011 20:54, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.
Great! That makes it a lot easier for me to add it to the database.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taul... named Plantilla:Filera XX
Separate templates are probably easier. Let's see if I get this
- BC Sard - Monuments of Sardinia, can't find the ISO code for Sardinia, does anyone happen to know it?
- BIC - Monuments in Spain, so the table name will be monuments_es_(ca)
- BIC Val - Monuments in Valencia, so the table name will be monuments_es-vc. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
- BCIN - Monuments in Catalonia, so the table name will be monuments_es-ct. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
Maarten
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100
From: maarten@mdammers.nl
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef: Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard
Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Hi guys,
I set up harvesting for 5 new sources: - monuments_ad_(ca) - Andorra - monuments_es-ct_(ca) - Catalunya - monuments_es_(ca) - Spain - monuments_fr_(ca) - France - monuments_it-88_(ca) - Sardinia
I haven't done Valencia yet, http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BIC_Val still needs to be converted. Please poke me when I can add it.
The sources are aggregated in the big table. You can see a (Google Earth) preview at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monuments_test/.
Someone else got a country I can add? ;-)
Maarten
Op 13-2-2011 23:40, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Right, Maarten.
ISO code for Sardinia is IT-88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:IT), so the coordinates have region:IT-88
We have also the templates "Filera BIC And" for Andorra (code ad) and "Filera MH" for France.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:56:19 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Vicenç,
Op 13-2-2011 20:54, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.Great! That makes it a lot easier for me to add it to the database.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taules named Plantilla:Filera XXSeparate templates are probably easier. Let's see if I get this
- BC Sard - Monuments of Sardinia, can't find the ISO code for
Sardinia, does anyone happen to know it?
- BIC - Monuments in Spain, so the table name will be monuments_es_(ca)
- BIC Val - Monuments in Valencia, so the table name will be
monuments_es-vc. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
- BCIN - Monuments in Catalonia, so the table name will be
monuments_es-ct. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
Maarten
Vicenç ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl <mailto:maarten@mdammers.nl> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation Hi Joan, Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef: Hi, I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example: 1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read. Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas. Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.html and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude? Maarten Thanks a lot, Joan. _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Hi,
wonderful! It seems like a load of monuments west of Africa also got included! :D
great work!
Lodewijk
2011/2/16 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl
Hi guys,
I set up harvesting for 5 new sources:
- monuments_ad_(ca) - Andorra
- monuments_es-ct_(ca) - Catalunya
- monuments_es_(ca) - Spain
- monuments_fr_(ca) - France
- monuments_it-88_(ca) - Sardinia
I haven't done Valencia yet, http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BIC_Val still needs to be converted. Please poke me when I can add it.
The sources are aggregated in the big table. You can see a (Google Earth) preview at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monuments_test/.
Someone else got a country I can add? ;-)
Maarten
Op 13-2-2011 23:40, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Right, Maarten.
ISO code for Sardinia is IT-88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:IT), so the coordinates have region:IT-88
We have also the templates "Filera BIC And" for Andorra (code ad) and "Filera MH" for France.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:56:19 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Vicenç,
Op 13-2-2011 20:54, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.
Great! That makes it a lot easier for me to add it to the database.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taul... Plantilla:Filera XX
Separate templates are probably easier. Let's see if I get this
- BC Sard - Monuments of Sardinia, can't find the ISO code for Sardinia,
does anyone happen to know it?
- BIC - Monuments in Spain, so the table name will be monuments_es_(ca)
- BIC Val - Monuments in Valencia, so the table name will be
monuments_es-vc. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
- BCIN - Monuments in Catalonia, so the table name will be monuments_es-ct.
If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
Maarten
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef:
Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
- Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even
though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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It will be quite difficult for participants to head for 0º N 0º W. Let's ship those monuments back home :-D
Vicenç
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:01:10 +0100 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi, wonderful! It seems like a load of monuments west of Africa also got included! :D great work! Lodewijk
2011/2/16 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl
Hi guys,
I set up harvesting for 5 new sources:
- monuments_ad_(ca) - Andorra
- monuments_es-ct_(ca) - Catalunya
- monuments_es_(ca) - Spain
- monuments_fr_(ca) - France
- monuments_it-88_(ca) - Sardinia
I haven't done Valencia yet, http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BIC_Val still needs to be converted. Please poke me when I can add it.
The sources are aggregated in the big table. You can see a (Google Earth) preview at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monuments_test/.
Someone else got a country I can add? ;-)
Maarten
Op 13-2-2011 23:40, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Right, Maarten.
ISO code for Sardinia is IT-88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:IT), so the coordinates have region:IT-88
We have also the templates "Filera BIC And" for Andorra (code ad) and "Filera MH" for France.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:56:19 +0100
From: maarten@mdammers.nl
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Vicenç,
Op 13-2-2011 20:54, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.
Great! That makes it a lot easier for me to add it to the database.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taul... named Plantilla:Filera XX
Separate templates are probably easier. Let's see if I get this
- BC Sard - Monuments of Sardinia, can't find the ISO code for Sardinia, does anyone happen to know it?
- BIC - Monuments in Spain, so the table name will be monuments_es_(ca)
- BIC Val - Monuments in Valencia, so the table name will be monuments_es-vc. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
- BCIN - Monuments in Catalonia, so the table name will be monuments_es-ct. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
Maarten
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100
From: maarten@mdammers.nl
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef: Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard
Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Great!
I missed Valencia. Now it is converted but there are no coordinates yet.
We use two fields for names: "nom" includes footnotes, icons, piped links or alternative names; "nomcoor" is intended for title parameter on GeoHack coordinates. It is better the second one as it is more descriptive.
Field "lloc" (location) includes municipality and adress separated by a line break tag shown at the database names. We will split it in two fields: "municipi" (new field) and "lloc" (only adresses or directions). I think this way will be more helpfull for everybody.
Finally, it is not necessary to construct the point tag with "name comma location". It results often redundant, like "Església de Sant Joan de Vilatorrada, Sant Joan de Vilatorrada", and in Spanish style brackets are used instead of comma. We will add the location on "nomcoor" field when necessary, so this will be the only field for naming the point tag.
Vicenç Riullop
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:27:41 +0100 From: maarten@mdammers.nl To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi guys,
I set up harvesting for 5 new sources:
- monuments_ad_(ca) - Andorra
- monuments_es-ct_(ca) - Catalunya
- monuments_es_(ca) - Spain
- monuments_fr_(ca) - France
- monuments_it-88_(ca) - Sardinia
I haven't done Valencia yet, http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BIC_Val still needs to be converted. Please poke me when I can add it.
The sources are aggregated in the big table. You can see a (Google Earth) preview at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monuments_test/.
Someone else got a country I can add? ;-)
Maarten
Op 13-2-2011 23:40, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Right, Maarten.
ISO code for Sardinia is IT-88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:IT), so the coordinates have region:IT-88
We have also the templates "Filera BIC And" for Andorra (code ad) and "Filera MH" for France.
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:56:19 +0100
From: maarten@mdammers.nl
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Vicenç,
Op 13-2-2011 20:54, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Fine, Maarten. We will unify all data with decimal notation.
Great! That makes it a lot easier for me to add it to the database.
We are using a family of templates with some different fields from different sources. Will it be helpfull to unify them in a more complex template? They are at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Plantilles_de_formataci%C3%B3_de_taul... named Plantilla:Filera XX
Separate templates are probably easier. Let's see if I get this
- BC Sard - Monuments of Sardinia, can't find the ISO code for Sardinia, does anyone happen to know it?
- BIC - Monuments in Spain, so the table name will be monuments_es_(ca)
- BIC Val - Monuments in Valencia, so the table name will be monuments_es-vc. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
- BCIN - Monuments in Catalonia, so the table name will be monuments_es-ct. If some other Wikipedia adds them too then I'll append (ca)
Maarten
Vicenç
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:14:34 +0100
From: maarten@mdammers.nl
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Map creation
Hi Joan,
Op 13-2-2011 10:48, Joan Creus schreef: Hi,
I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Some pointers: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000011.... and http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2011-February/003889.html
I found your lists of monuments at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Llistes_de_monuments and the template at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Filera_BC_Sard
Looks good, just one thing now: Could you please use decimal notation for the latitude and longitude?
Maarten
Thanks a lot,
Joan.
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Hi Vicenç ,
Op 17-2-2011 12:37, Vicenç Riullop schreef:
Great!
I missed Valencia. Now it is converted but there are no coordinates yet.
Ok. Just added Valencia.
We use two fields for names: "nom" includes footnotes, icons, piped links or alternative names; "nomcoor" is intended for title parameter on GeoHack coordinates. It is better the second one as it is more descriptive.
Ok, I changed everything to nomcoor.
Field "lloc" (location) includes municipality and adress separated by a line break tag shown at the database names. We will split it in two fields: "municipi" (new field) and "lloc" (only adresses or directions). I think this way will be more helpfull for everybody.
Ok, lloc now maps too address and municipi to municipality.
Finally, it is not necessary to construct the point tag with "name comma location". It results often redundant, like "Església de Sant Joan de Vilatorrada, Sant Joan de Vilatorrada", and in Spanish style brackets are used instead of comma. We will add the location on "nomcoor" field when necessary, so this will be the only field for naming the point tag.
"name comma location"? O, you're talking about my hacked up tool at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monuments_test/ ? This is really a proof of concept and should be replaced with a real tool.
Maarten
Vicenç Riullop
Finally, it is not necessary to construct the point tag with "name comma location". It results often redundant, like "Església de Sant Joan de Vilatorrada, Sant Joan de Vilatorrada", and in Spanish style brackets are used instead of comma. We will add the location on "nomcoor" field when necessary, so this will be the only field for naming the point tag.
"name comma location"? O, you're talking about my hacked up tool at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monuments_test/ ? This is really a proof of concept and should be replaced with a real tool.
Maarten, I was talking about the proof tool. Later I saw that the final tool of last year was more complete. Really great.
Vicenç Riullop
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