Good morning,
good news for the Upload Wizard: one of our main requests was deployed, we can pass parameters via the URL now.
The parameters are: id (i.e. campaign id/monuments id) description lat lon alt (altitude)
This allows us to do a "one-click-upload" for a monument. I'm sure you have plenty ideas for that ;-)
An example would be:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&camp...
Of course it works also without the campaign name and id for the standard wizard.
First tests looked ok, but I'm sure we need to test the details (formatting of the values, format of the coordinates etc., extreme ideas people could have ;-))
So it would be nice if you test it as much as you can and provide me with your feedback here! Thanks a lot.
Regards, elke
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:04 AM, elya ew_wp@web.de wrote:
Good morning,
good news for the Upload Wizard: one of our main requests was deployed, we can pass parameters via the URL now.
The parameters are: id (i.e. campaign id/monuments id) description lat lon alt (altitude)
This allows us to do a "one-click-upload" for a monument. I'm sure you have plenty ideas for that ;-)
An example would be:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&camp...
Of course it works also without the campaign name and id for the standard wizard.
First tests looked ok, but I'm sure we need to test the details (formatting of the values, format of the coordinates etc., extreme ideas people could have ;-))
So it would be nice if you test it as much as you can and provide me with your feedback here! Thanks a lot.
Regards, elke
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Does this mean the template for monuments lists can be modified to carry a direct link from a monument item to Upload Wizard with all fields filled?
Elke, Super! This will make the uploads from the lists possible if instead of linking a photo, you have a link "Contribute to Wikipedia - upload your own picture of this monument!" or something like that. Jane
2012/5/21 elya ew_wp@web.de
Does this mean the template for monuments lists can be modified to carry
a
direct link from a monument item to Upload Wizard with all fields filled?
with the fields mentioned above, yes! Sorry if I was not clear with this. Try it out, it's easy :-)
Regards, elke
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Yes, it blends^Wworks! Waiting for creation of wlm-by campaign though. As well as an updated lists parser for Belarusian lists (template {{coord}} was allowed instead of separate lat and long, now with this URL separate parameters are obligatory).
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Elke, Super! This will make the uploads from the lists possible if instead of linking a photo, you have a link "Contribute to Wikipedia - upload your own picture of this monument!" or something like that. Jane
2012/5/21 elya ew_wp@web.de
Does this mean the template for monuments lists can be modified to
carry a
direct link from a monument item to Upload Wizard with all fields
filled?
with the fields mentioned above, yes! Sorry if I was not clear with this. Try it out, it's easy :-)
Regards, elke
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What happens, if someone trys to upload more than one picture - maybe 20, but these pictures are all from different Objects? All these Objects will use the same informations as described?
Because, sending more than one picture at once is the main feature of the upload wizzard.
Why don´t we predefine the licence? We did it last year in Austria, nobody has a problem with it.
And, too, why don´t we sent a correct, predefined category for this object?
hubertl
Am 21.05.2012 08:28, schrieb elya:
Does this mean the template for monuments lists can be modified to carry a direct link from a monument item to Upload Wizard with all fields filled?
with the fields mentioned above, yes! Sorry if I was not clear with this. Try it out, it's easy :-)
Regards, elke
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Hubert, not sure if you can do that in the "description" field?
Elke, is this version at the prototype site, so we can test with dummy images?
How do you suggest us to test it, otherwise?
Hi Nuno,
Op 21-5-2012 11:46, Nuno Tavares schreef:
Elke, is this version at the prototype site, so we can test with dummy images?
How do you suggest us to test it, otherwise?
Yes, I would prefer testing on a test wiki. We need: * A MediaWiki instance with current (or newer) Commons configuration + UploadWizard * Easy logging in for testers * Low barrier handing out of admin privileges for trusted people who want to configure and test * Stable environment (we don't want to loose all configurations because someone decided to empty out the database for example)
So http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/ worked fine for us, but that needs to be updated and I understand that it was supposed to have been shut down months ago. Labs would be an alternative (http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/), but that's for some reason always broken when I look at it. At the moment https://test.wikipedia.org/ seems to be the best alternative, the fields are accepted (and I got some nice warnings about foo and bar being too short, and that lat and long are incorrect).
So test it is! (until or unless someone comes up with a better alternative)
Maarten
Hi everyone,
Based on http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&t... I assigned rights at test: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&a... for the following users:
* Beria * Ainali * Effeietsanders * Jean-Frédéric * Vriullop * AleXXw * Polimerek * Strainu * Raymond * Elya
For some users I couldn't assign rights because they never logged into test before. Please login, make a simple user page and ping me off list if you would like to test too. Please help and copy anything useful from http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadCampaigns to https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadCampaigns .
Maarten
Op 21-5-2012 13:00, Maarten Dammers schreef:
Hi Nuno,
Op 21-5-2012 11:46, Nuno Tavares schreef:
Elke, is this version at the prototype site, so we can test with dummy images?
How do you suggest us to test it, otherwise?
Yes, I would prefer testing on a test wiki. We need:
- A MediaWiki instance with current (or newer) Commons configuration +
UploadWizard
- Easy logging in for testers
- Low barrier handing out of admin privileges for trusted people who
want to configure and test
- Stable environment (we don't want to loose all configurations
because someone decided to empty out the database for example)
So http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/ worked fine for us, but that needs to be updated and I understand that it was supposed to have been shut down months ago. Labs would be an alternative (http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/), but that's for some reason always broken when I look at it. At the moment https://test.wikipedia.org/ seems to be the best alternative, the fields are accepted (and I got some nice warnings about foo and bar being too short, and that lat and long are incorrect).
So test it is! (until or unless someone comes up with a better alternative)
Maarten
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On 21/05/12 13:00, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi Nuno,
Yes, I would prefer testing on a test wiki. We need:
- A MediaWiki instance with current (or newer) Commons configuration +
UploadWizard
- Easy logging in for testers
- Low barrier handing out of admin privileges for trusted people who
want to configure and test
- Stable environment (we don't want to loose all configurations because
someone decided to empty out the database for example)
So http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/ worked fine for us, but that needs to be updated and I understand that it was supposed to have been shut down months ago. Labs would be an alternative (http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/), but that's for some reason always broken when I look at it. At the moment https://test.wikipedia.org/ seems to be the best alternative, the fields are accepted (and I got some nice warnings about foo and bar being too short, and that lat and long are incorrect).
So test it is! (until or unless someone comes up with a better alternative)
Maarten
test.wikipedia.org contains almost-stable code (when it's ready to go for deployment). We should better test it at https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org I can promote you there if needed.
Hi Platonides,
Op 21-5-2012 17:36, Platonides schreef:
test.wikipedia.org contains almost-stable code (when it's ready to go for deployment).
That's exactly what we need for our beta testing.
We should better test it at https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org I can promote you there if needed.
This is more for development. The testing we're doing now is more end user testing, getting the hang of the campaign extension, preparing templates, etc. Labs is always down when I need it so, I'd rather use good old test.wikipedia.org for this ;-)
Maarten
On 21/05/12 17:47, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi Platonides,
Op 21-5-2012 17:36, Platonides schreef:
test.wikipedia.org contains almost-stable code (when it's ready to go for deployment).
That's exactly what we need for our beta testing.
We should better test it at https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org I can promote you there if needed.
This is more for development. The testing we're doing now is more end user testing, getting the hang of the campaign extension, preparing templates, etc. Labs is always down when I need it so, I'd rather use good old test.wikipedia.org for this ;-)
Maarten
It's up right now :) New features and bug fixes will appear much earilier in labs than in testwiki.
Am 21.05.2012 18:04, schrieb Platonides:
On 21/05/12 17:47, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi Platonides,
Op 21-5-2012 17:36, Platonides schreef:
test.wikipedia.org contains almost-stable code (when it's ready to go for deployment).
That's exactly what we need for our beta testing.
We should better test it at https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org I can promote you there if needed.
This is more for development. The testing we're doing now is more end user testing, getting the hang of the campaign extension, preparing templates, etc. Labs is always down when I need it so, I'd rather use good old test.wikipedia.org for this ;-)
Maarten
It's up right now :) New features and bug fixes will appear much earilier in labs than in testwiki.
right, but luckily the features to test are already live on Commons and on testwiki :;-)
Raimond.
Hi Hubertl,
What happens, if someone trys to upload more than one picture - maybe 20, but these pictures are all from different Objects? All these Objects will use the same informations as described?
Because, sending more than one picture at once is the main feature of the upload wizzard.
What you can do is one of those options:
* You could upload several images for one monument and copy (only on click, that's NOT automagically) all or some of the fields to the additional images, or * decide to use the parameters only for the first one.
Why don´t we predefine the licence? We did it last year in Austria, nobody has a problem with it.
We can do it in the campaign (default license last year was the localized cc-by-sa 3.0)
And, too, why don´t we sent a correct, predefined category for this object?
Good that you ask: you can! I oversaw this parameter, it's
* &categories=catname1|catname2|catname3|
(pipe-separated). Checked it, works for me.
Regards,
elke
Hi everyone,
To make parameter passing easier and consistent I created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:UploadCampaignLink . You can see it in action at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rijksmonuments_in_Bloemendaal_%28town%... (thanks Elke for the icon). I would propose to hammer out the bugs here and than we can easily copy the template to other language Wikipedia's to be used in the row templates. What do you think?
Maarten
Ps. I already found the first bug: I can't pass the language to Commons (it's always my default language)
Great, Maarten,
I was experimenting with otherInformation, can't pass that one either. And it seems when you use "categories", it will drop the default one (for PT was: Cultural heritage in Portugal)
Another example of usage of this link is at our database browser, just click an upload link (near the description). Example:
http://test.wikilovesmonuments.org.pt/tools/plist/?program=%C2%AEion=Lisboa&...
Next step would be to merge the guess for more suitable info (thinking of otherInformation for that, but...), from our validation helper tool:
http://test.wikilovesmonuments.org.pt/tools/verify/?wlm_id=70890
-NT
Em 21-05-2012 22:57, Maarten Dammers escreveu:
Hi everyone,
To make parameter passing easier and consistent I created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:UploadCampaignLink . You can see it in action at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rijksmonuments_in_Bloemendaal_%28town%... (thanks Elke for the icon). I would propose to hammer out the bugs here and than we can easily copy the template to other language Wikipedia's to be used in the row templates. What do you think?
Maarten
Ps. I already found the first bug: I can't pass the language to Commons (it's always my default language)
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