Tilman Bayer, 08/04/2012 12:02 AM:

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

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Tilman Bayer, 29/07/2012 18:28:

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Regarding the "normal levels", I suppose you haven't yet had a chance to look at http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/active_editors ?

Yes and it shows that there's still an increase over the pre-WLM situation.

Given the size of the normal monthly fluctuations (e.g. July-August 2011: +0.3K, August-October 2011: +0.2K), and the overall upwards trend during 2011-12, I find it hard to understand the objections to the interpretation "returning to normal levels".

I wasn't objecting to it, I only asked where to find the data. :-) To me, it seems to have stabilized on a slightly higher level.

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Actually I was reading http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikispecial/EN/TablesWikipediaCOMMONS.htm which shows the numbers better but still doesn't have the total number of uploaders/ussers with at least one edit in a given month.

It does show the number of users with at least one upload, and those with at least one mainspace edit (look further down). As an aside, it also contains numbers for uploads made using UploadWizard, strongly supporting the statement that much of the 2011-12 growth was due to this usability improvement, cf. the statement on slide 25 you already cited below.

Ah, thank you, I forgot the Commons-specific part of the page: that's what I was looking for, with the 22642 uploaders number. :-) http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikispecial/EN/TablesWikipediaCOMMONS.htm#uploader_activity_levels To me, this table shows that uploaders were stabilized (for a few months) at about: * 15k total / 0k with UW "before the UploadWizard"; * 16k / 9k after it; * 18k / 13k after WLM. Which would show a progressive switch to UW (also by very active uploaders), boosted by WLM, and a stable increase of uploaders after UW+WLM. This poor man reading of the tables doesn't provide reliable indications, of course; I do have a slightly different opinion than the one the annual plan seems to be implying (speaking of WLM "only" as one of the short-term activity boosters), but the conclusion is the same: WLM and UW had a wonderful synergy and are the way to go (with the mobile app this year).

Nemo