Dear all,
I am saqib from Wikimedia Pakistan.
We in Pakistan would like to broaden the scope of this years WLM Pakistan and would accept both tangible and intangible cultural heritage photos. For the purpose, we would need to run the contest for at-least 2 months starting this week.
Can we run the contest for 2 months? Saqib
Hey Saqib,
I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.
Best, Lodewijk
2016-08-03 18:43 GMT+02:00 Saqib Qayyum saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com:
Dear all,
I am saqib from Wikimedia Pakistan.
We in Pakistan would like to broaden the scope of this years WLM Pakistan and would accept both tangible and intangible cultural heritage photos. For the purpose, we would need to run the contest for at-least 2 months starting this week.
Can we run the contest for 2 months? Saqib
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
016-08-03 19:59 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hey Saqib,
I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean
time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.
Best, Lodewijk
Hi,
If possible, I'd like to see that list too (fro information ; we though about ICH in France and we have a list - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventaire_du_patrimoine_culturel_immat%C3%A9r... - bot most of the items on this list are not visual - logical as we speak about intangible things - and thus not easily photographiable).
I wait for the international team answer but in my humble and personal opinion, it is a very good idea to broaden the scope of WLM (we talked about it at Wikimania) and I think we should experiment new things (in France, last year, we added vehicles monuments for a special prize but it didn't work very well, probably because we didn't communicate enough... I'm eager to hear about other experiments in other countries).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Hi Saqib, Hi Nicolas,
This is to acknowledge that the international team has received your comments and we will get back to you, hopefully in the next 24 hours. :)
Best, Leila, on behalf of the international team
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
016-08-03 19:59 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hey Saqib,
I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean
time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.
Best, Lodewijk
Hi,
If possible, I'd like to see that list too (fro information ; we though about ICH in France and we have a list - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventaire_du_patrimoine_culturel_immat%C3%A9r...
- bot most of the items on this list are not visual - logical as we speak
about intangible things - and thus not easily photographiable).
I wait for the international team answer but in my humble and personal opinion, it is a very good idea to broaden the scope of WLM (we talked about it at Wikimania) and I think we should experiment new things (in France, last year, we added vehicles monuments for a special prize but it didn't work very well, probably because we didn't communicate enough... I'm eager to hear about other experiments in other countries).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi Saqib,
We discussed the options available and here is what we'd like to share with you:
We are open to brainstorm with the local organizers about other ways we can bring contributions to WLM, however, the general consensus in the team is that the contest's concept should remain clear and easy to explain. At the moment, the focus is on monuments, and monuments need to be tangible. If you are interested to run the contest for both tangible monuments and intangible heritage, and you want to do this around the same time as the WLM contest, our recommendation is for you to consider one of the following options:
1) You organize two competitions starting September. The first month will be focused on tangible heritage, the second on intangible (Think, Wiki Loves Traditions.). Only the images collected through the first month will be eligible for WLM.
+ This approach is easy to explain.
+ It gives more time to work out the details for the second part.
- Banner fatigue is a problem you should be aware of. Using CentralNotice for 2 continuous months will result in banner fatigue, so you need to be creative in how you keep the audience engaged.
- Even a month of contest is long, you can loose some of the attractiveness and uniqueness of the contest in the eyes of your audience if it becomes something that you run for 2 months.
2) You organize both the tangible and intangible contests at the same time, but with two categories in parallel. Only the tangible category would be eligible for WLM. For the non-tangible one, you can give a special prize locally.
+ This way, you can use the WLM brand and attract participants for the intangible component as well. - We expect the communication for this option to be confusing. One way you can go around the potential communication issues is by explicitly labeling it as "pilot".
Please keep us posted with what you decide to do, and if you have questions, please feel free to reach out. :)
Best, Leila, on behalf of the WLM international team.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Lily lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Saqib, Hi Nicolas,
This is to acknowledge that the international team has received your comments and we will get back to you, hopefully in the next 24 hours. :)
Best, Leila, on behalf of the international team
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
016-08-03 19:59 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hey Saqib,
I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean
time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.
Best, Lodewijk
Hi,
If possible, I'd like to see that list too (fro information ; we though about ICH in France and we have a list - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Inventaire_du_patrimoine_culturel_immatériel_en_France - bot most of the items on this list are not visual - logical as we speak about intangible things - and thus not easily photographiable).
I wait for the international team answer but in my humble and personal opinion, it is a very good idea to broaden the scope of WLM (we talked about it at Wikimania) and I think we should experiment new things (in France, last year, we added vehicles monuments for a special prize but it didn't work very well, probably because we didn't communicate enough... I'm eager to hear about other experiments in other countries).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
-- User: LilyOfTheWest
Hi Nicolas,
Potentially broadening the scope of WLM is something we are actively considering. So please keep your ideas coming, we can even open a page somewhere (if it already doesn't exist) and continue this discussion there with the understanding that the high priority for the international team at the moment is to make sure we have a successful 2016 contest, so we may be slow in engaging for some time.
Best, Leila, on behalf of the WLM international team
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
016-08-03 19:59 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hey Saqib,
I'm sure the international team is onto answering this, but in the mean
time, I'm curious, could you link to the lists you're talking about? What is the list of tangible heritage, and what is on the list of intangible heritage? How big are the lists? That way everybody understands better what you're talking about. Two links could be easiest.
Best, Lodewijk
Hi,
If possible, I'd like to see that list too (fro information ; we though about ICH in France and we have a list - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Inventaire_du_patrimoine_culturel_immatériel_en_France - bot most of the items on this list are not visual - logical as we speak about intangible things - and thus not easily photographiable).
I wait for the international team answer but in my humble and personal opinion, it is a very good idea to broaden the scope of WLM (we talked about it at Wikimania) and I think we should experiment new things (in France, last year, we added vehicles monuments for a special prize but it didn't work very well, probably because we didn't communicate enough... I'm eager to hear about other experiments in other countries).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi, just to say that in Perú we are so interested in focus on the inmaterial cultural heritage too. So, we keep especial interest in develop activities with this target. I dont know which is the better moment to start it, but, if is it possible, we want to join to you in this effort. Greetings!
El 03/08/16 a las 11:43, Saqib Qayyum escribió:
Dear all,
I am saqib from Wikimedia Pakistan.
We in Pakistan would like to broaden the scope of this years WLM Pakistan and would accept both tangible and intangible cultural heritage photos. For the purpose, we would need to run the contest for at-least 2 months starting this week.
Can we run the contest for 2 months? Saqib
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi, just to say that in Perú we are so interested in focus on the inmaterial cultural heritage too. So, we keep especial interest in develop activities with this target. I dont know which is the better moment to start it, but, if is it possible, we want to join to you in this effort. Greetings!
El 03/08/16 a las 11:43, Saqib Qayyum escribió:
Dear all,
I am saqib from Wikimedia Pakistan.
We in Pakistan would like to broaden the scope of this years WLM Pakistan and would accept both tangible and intangible cultural heritage photos. For the purpose, we would need to run the contest for at-least 2 months starting this week.
Can we run the contest for 2 months? Saqib
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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