Dear all,
The draft version of the questionnaire for this year's participants' survey is ready: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Particip...
There is a description of the changes with regard to last year's questionnaire on the talk page.
Please give feedback until 30 August! - If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them on the talk page or on this mailing list.
@International Team: Please let us know if it is ok for you if we add your names at the end of the intro text, as was done in previous years!
Kind regards,
Beat Estermann
_____________________________________________________ Beat Estermann Research Associate Berne University of Applied Sciences E-Government Institute Morgartenstrasse 2a Postfach 305 CH-3000 Bern 22 beat.estermann@bfh.ch www.e-government.bfh.ch Phone +41 31 848 34 30 Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38 Fax +41 31 848 34 31
Hello Beat,
wanted to check if we can add anything about CC-BY-SA here. I mean, we can add a question like; "Did you ever know that contributing anything in Creative Commons license is the best way to share anything in the world?" We do have the license as the default one to participate in the contest, but many of them don't even know what exactly is CC all about!!
People actively contributing to Flickr might just consider to upload all their images in CC license if we can educate people about this, and survey might also be a better idea.
Regards, Karthik Nadar. Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. http://wiki.wikimedia.in
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Estermann Beat beat.estermann@bfh.chwrote:
Dear all,****
The draft version of the questionnaire for this year’s participants’ survey is ready:****
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Particip...
There is a description of the changes with regard to last year’s questionnaire on the talk page.****
Please give feedback until 30 August! – If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask them on the talk page or on this mailing list.****
*@International Team:*
Please let us know if it is ok for you if we add your names at the end of the intro text, as was done in previous years!****
Kind regards,****
Beat Estermann****
_____________________________________________________ ****
Beat Estermann Research Associate****
Berne University of Applied Sciences E-Government Institute Morgartenstrasse 2a Postfach 305 CH-3000 Bern 22 ****
beat.estermann@bfh.ch www.e-government.bfh.ch ****
Phone +41 31 848 34 30 Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38 Fax +41 31 848 34 31 ****
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi Karthik,
what exactly would you like to accomplish with that question? What information would you like to collect, and what would you like to do with that information? The longer a survey gets the less people fill it out, so I'm always in favor of reducing the number of questions where possible. One way of doing that is by removing questions where we already know we will not actually act upon the results.
Lodewijk
2013/8/25 Karthik Nadar karthikndr@wikimedia.in
Hello Beat,
wanted to check if we can add anything about CC-BY-SA here. I mean, we can add a question like; "Did you ever know that contributing anything in Creative Commons license is the best way to share anything in the world?" We do have the license as the default one to participate in the contest, but many of them don't even know what exactly is CC all about!!
People actively contributing to Flickr might just consider to upload all their images in CC license if we can educate people about this, and survey might also be a better idea.
Regards, Karthik Nadar. Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. http://wiki.wikimedia.in
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Estermann Beat beat.estermann@bfh.chwrote:
Dear all,****
The draft version of the questionnaire for this year’s participants’ survey is ready:****
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Particip...
There is a description of the changes with regard to last year’s questionnaire on the talk page.****
Please give feedback until 30 August! – If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask them on the talk page or on this mailing list.****
*@International Team:*
Please let us know if it is ok for you if we add your names at the end of the intro text, as was done in previous years!****
Kind regards,****
Beat Estermann****
_____________________________________________________ ****
Beat Estermann Research Associate****
Berne University of Applied Sciences E-Government Institute Morgartenstrasse 2a Postfach 305 CH-3000 Bern 22 ****
beat.estermann@bfh.ch www.e-government.bfh.ch ****
Phone +41 31 848 34 30 Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38 Fax +41 31 848 34 31 ****
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2013/8/25 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hi Karthik,
what exactly would you like to accomplish with that question? What information would you like to collect, and what would you like to do with that information? The longer a survey gets the less people fill it out, so I'm always in favor of reducing the number of questions where possible. One way of doing that is by removing questions where we already know we will not actually act upon the results.
Lodewijk
Maybe this question could be turn that way : “What licence did you chose ?” It is useful to know how many people stay with the default licence and how many change it (and at the same time increase the awareness of free licences which is important but maybe not enough in itself to be in this survey). If many people change the licence, we could act to change the the default licence.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
2013/8/25 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hi Karthik,
what exactly would you like to accomplish with that question? What information would you like to collect, and what would you like to do with that information? The longer a survey gets the less people fill it out,
so
I'm always in favor of reducing the number of questions where possible.
One
way of doing that is by removing questions where we already know we will
not
actually act upon the results.
Lodewijk
Maybe this question could be turn that way : “What licence did you chose ?” It is useful to know how many people stay with the default licence and how many change it (and at the same time increase the awareness of free licences which is important but maybe not enough in itself to be in this survey). If many people change the licence, we could act to change the the default licence.
This one sounds better too. All I wanted to play with the license, and this one sounds appropriate. We can make sure to know, with which license people are more comfortable with.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
We already know that ~ 60/70% of the respondents will be new users, meaning that they will probably not understand properly what you're talking about. The WLM upload infrastructure has been built in such a way that we don't push the license too much in their face, but only inform them that they are releasing it etc - we don't push a choice to them. I don't expect any reliable answers from such a question (or any license related question). If the intended audience were primarily wikimedians, that might be different.
If any question around free licensing would be appropriate, it would probably be finding out whether it was a hurdle for them - do they consider releasing stuff under a free license a problem? But even about that I'm very doubtful whether it is worth the confusion and extra question.
Lodewijk
2013/8/25 Karthik Nadar karthikndr@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
2013/8/25 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hi Karthik,
what exactly would you like to accomplish with that question? What information would you like to collect, and what would you like to do
with
that information? The longer a survey gets the less people fill it out,
so
I'm always in favor of reducing the number of questions where possible.
One
way of doing that is by removing questions where we already know we
will not
actually act upon the results.
Lodewijk
Maybe this question could be turn that way : “What licence did you chose ?” It is useful to know how many people stay with the default licence and how many change it (and at the same time increase the awareness of free licences which is important but maybe not enough in itself to be in this survey). If many people change the licence, we could act to change the the default licence.
This one sounds better too. All I wanted to play with the license, and this one sounds appropriate. We can make sure to know, with which license people are more comfortable with.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
We already know that ~ 60/70% of the respondents will be new users, meaning that they will probably not understand properly what you're talking about. The WLM upload infrastructure has been built in such a way that we don't push the license too much in their face, but only inform them that they are releasing it etc - we don't push a choice to them. I don't expect any reliable answers from such a question (or any license related question). If the intended audience were primarily wikimedians, that might be different.
If any question around free licensing would be appropriate, it would probably be finding out whether it was a hurdle for them - do they consider releasing stuff under a free license a problem? But even about that I'm very doubtful whether it is worth the confusion and extra question.
What if we can ask something as easy like this: "Will you reconsider and recommend your friends to contribute contents on Internet under free license??"
Lodewijk
2013/8/25 Karthik Nadar karthikndr@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
2013/8/25 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hi Karthik,
what exactly would you like to accomplish with that question? What information would you like to collect, and what would you like to do
with
that information? The longer a survey gets the less people fill it
out, so
I'm always in favor of reducing the number of questions where
possible. One
way of doing that is by removing questions where we already know we
will not
actually act upon the results.
Lodewijk
Maybe this question could be turn that way : “What licence did you chose ?” It is useful to know how many people stay with the default licence and how many change it (and at the same time increase the awareness of free licences which is important but maybe not enough in itself to be in this survey). If many people change the licence, we could act to change the the default licence.
This one sounds better too. All I wanted to play with the license, and this one sounds appropriate. We can make sure to know, with which license people are more comfortable with.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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On 25/08/13 20:26, Karthik Nadar wrote:
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
We already know that ~ 60/70% of the respondents will be new users, meaning that they will probably not understand properly what you're talking about. The WLM upload infrastructure has been built in such a way that we don't push the license too much in their face, but only inform them that they are releasing it etc - we don't push a choice to them. I don't expect any reliable answers from such a question (or any license related question). If the intended audience were primarily wikimedians, that might be different. If any question around free licensing would be appropriate, it would probably be finding out whether it was a hurdle for them - do they consider releasing stuff under a free license a problem? But even about that I'm very doubtful whether it is worth the confusion and extra question.What if we can ask something as easy like this: "Will you reconsider and recommend your friends to contribute contents on Internet under free license??"
I would have phrased it more like "Did you publish something under a free license before?"
Dear all,
Thanks a lot for your valuable feedback!
I've completed the questionnaire today: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Partici...
It can now be set-up for translation.
Kind regards, Beat
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On 25/08/13 20:26, Karthik Nadar wrote:
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
We already know that ~ 60/70% of the respondents will be new users, meaning that they will probably not understand properly what you're talking about. The WLM upload infrastructure has been built in such a way that we don't push the license too much in their face, but only inform them that they are releasing it etc - we don't push a choice to them. I don't expect any reliable answers from such a question (or any license related question). If the intended audience were primarily wikimedians, that might be different. If any question around free licensing would be appropriate, it would probably be finding out whether it was a hurdle for them - do they consider releasing stuff under a free license a problem? But even about that I'm very doubtful whether it is worth the confusion and extra question.What if we can ask something as easy like this: "Will you reconsider and recommend your friends to contribute contents on Internet under free license??"
I would have phrased it more like "Did you publish something under a free license before?"
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I agree that shorter surveys are more effective. On that notem could the final question be shortened? Questions along the lines of 'would you like to hear from us again' are sensible and common amongst surveys etc, but that is the longest I've come across.
Richard
On 25/08/2013, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
We already know that ~ 60/70% of the respondents will be new users, meaning that they will probably not understand properly what you're talking about. The WLM upload infrastructure has been built in such a way that we don't push the license too much in their face, but only inform them that they are releasing it etc - we don't push a choice to them. I don't expect any reliable answers from such a question (or any license related question). If the intended audience were primarily wikimedians, that might be different.
If any question around free licensing would be appropriate, it would probably be finding out whether it was a hurdle for them - do they consider releasing stuff under a free license a problem? But even about that I'm very doubtful whether it is worth the confusion and extra question.
Lodewijk
2013/8/25 Karthik Nadar karthikndr@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:
2013/8/25 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
Hi Karthik,
what exactly would you like to accomplish with that question? What information would you like to collect, and what would you like to do
with
that information? The longer a survey gets the less people fill it out,
so
I'm always in favor of reducing the number of questions where possible.
One
way of doing that is by removing questions where we already know we
will not
actually act upon the results.
Lodewijk
Maybe this question could be turn that way : “What licence did you chose ?” It is useful to know how many people stay with the default licence and how many change it (and at the same time increase the awareness of free licences which is important but maybe not enough in itself to be in this survey). If many people change the licence, we could act to change the the default licence.
This one sounds better too. All I wanted to play with the license, and this one sounds appropriate. We can make sure to know, with which license people are more comfortable with.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
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