Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :) Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us! Thank you,Abbad.
Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
Santi (Millars)
From: aaddira@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :) Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us! Thank you,Abbad.
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Of course, Santi. Petra will have a very special part, it is our mascot ;) Abbad.
From: wikimillars@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:28:59 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
Santi (Millars)
From: aaddira@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :) Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us! Thank you,Abbad.
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Hi Abbad,
did you already encounter this page on the website of the Department of Antiquities?
http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5049&MlID=8
Every governorate seems to contain a small list of archaeological sites in that region. Also, some data might be collected via http://www.getty.edu/conservation/our_projects/field_projects/jordan/jordan_... .
The Law of Antiquities ( http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5017&MlID=5 ) suggests that the term "Antique Sites" is what you are looking for. All these should have been announced in the Official Gazette, and therefore matter of public record. The General Department of Antiquities should have a register, as per art.3.3 , so I would naively suggest to call them and ask if they published it already somewhere, and if they can email it to you. As they are together with the Tourism department nowadays, they might be motivated by the argument that it is good for Tourism to have more information on Wikipedia :)
Out of curiosity, how many volunteers are involved at this point? What would be the language project that you would be using as your basis? (i.e. arwiki, enwiki?)
Please let us know if there is any way we can practically help.
Best regards, Lodewijk
2013/5/30 Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com
Of course, Santi. Petra will have a very special part, it is our mascot ;)
Abbad.
From: wikimillars@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:28:59 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
Santi (Millars)
From: aaddira@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :)
Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us!
Thank you, Abbad.
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Hi Lodewijk, Thank you for your concern and efforts. Actually, the answer is no, I didn't encounter that website. However, according to the definition of a monument given by Wikipedia, it shouldn't include only archaeological sites, but also another variety of buildings and and structures with a particular historical or national importance. For publishing the list, I think they would be extremely collaborative just if we talk them about the contest, and how important it is to have Jordan represented in it :) The editors who have confirmed participation so far are five (including me), and the number could possibly rise up to eight. It may worth noting that half of those have been editing Wikipedia for over three years, and are current/previous admins with a very good wiki experience. The language used will be definitely Arabic, which is the sole official language of Jordan. Thank you,Abbad. From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:48:21 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi Abbad, did you already encounter this page on the website of the Department of Antiquities? http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5049&MlID=8
Every governorate seems to contain a small list of archaeological sites in that region. Also, some data might be collected via http://www.getty.edu/conservation/our_projects/field_projects/jordan/jordan_... .
The Law of Antiquities ( http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5017&MlID=5 ) suggests that the term "Antique Sites" is what you are looking for. All these should have been announced in the Official Gazette, and therefore matter of public record. The General Department of Antiquities should have a register, as per art.3.3 , so I would naively suggest to call them and ask if they published it already somewhere, and if they can email it to you. As they are together with the Tourism department nowadays, they might be motivated by the argument that it is good for Tourism to have more information on Wikipedia :)
Out of curiosity, how many volunteers are involved at this point? What would be the language project that you would be using as your basis? (i.e. arwiki, enwiki?)
Please let us know if there is any way we can practically help. Best regards,Lodewijk
2013/5/30 Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com
Of course, Santi. Petra will have a very special part, it is our mascot ;) Abbad.
From: wikimillars@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:28:59 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
Santi (Millars)
From: aaddira@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :)
Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us! Thank you,Abbad.
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Hi Abbad,
in a perfect world, the definition would indeed be a bit broader. However, experience tells that quite a number of Asian countries seem to focus their government definition on archaeology - so that is often the first thing that gets protected and has official lists. In any case it would be a good list to start with, and you can always see what other lists you can find to add to that if necessary.
I look forward to movement on this! Sounds like a very interesting group of people, and I'm glad you're joining!
Lodewijk
2013/5/31 Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com
Hi Lodewijk,
Thank you for your concern and efforts. Actually, the answer is no, I didn't encounter that website. However, according to the definition of a monument given by Wikipedia, it shouldn't include only archaeological sites, but also another variety of buildings and and structures with a particular historical or national importance. For publishing the list, I think they would be extremely collaborative just if we talk them about the contest, and how important it is to have Jordan represented in it :)
The editors who have confirmed participation so far are five (including me), and the number could possibly rise up to eight. It may worth noting that half of those have been editing Wikipedia for over three years, and are current/previous admins with a very good wiki experience.
The language used will be definitely Arabic, which is the sole official language of Jordan.
Thank you, Abbad.
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:48:21 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi Abbad,
did you already encounter this page on the website of the Department of Antiquities?
http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5049&MlID=8
Every governorate seems to contain a small list of archaeological sites in that region. Also, some data might be collected via http://www.getty.edu/conservation/our_projects/field_projects/jordan/jordan_... .
The Law of Antiquities ( http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5017&MlID=5 ) suggests that the term "Antique Sites" is what you are looking for. All these should have been announced in the Official Gazette, and therefore matter of public record. The General Department of Antiquities should have a register, as per art.3.3 , so I would naively suggest to call them and ask if they published it already somewhere, and if they can email it to you. As they are together with the Tourism department nowadays, they might be motivated by the argument that it is good for Tourism to have more information on Wikipedia :)
Out of curiosity, how many volunteers are involved at this point? What would be the language project that you would be using as your basis? (i.e. arwiki, enwiki?)
Please let us know if there is any way we can practically help.
Best regards, Lodewijk
2013/5/30 Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com
Of course, Santi. Petra will have a very special part, it is our mascot ;)
Abbad.
From: wikimillars@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:28:59 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
Santi (Millars)
From: aaddira@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :)
Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us!
Thank you, Abbad.
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Thank you, Lodewijk. It seems, in this case, that we wouldn't need much other than those sites, and I am not sure actually if we can even find something else here at all, but we will try anyway. Also, our capabilities may not exceeds more than few trips. So, other than diversity in the monuments and locations involved, it wouldn't be really important to have more monuments. I like to thank you again for your efforts. I hope we can do well in the competition! Abbad. From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 16:26:15 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi Abbad, in a perfect world, the definition would indeed be a bit broader. However, experience tells that quite a number of Asian countries seem to focus their government definition on archaeology - so that is often the first thing that gets protected and has official lists. In any case it would be a good list to start with, and you can always see what other lists you can find to add to that if necessary.
I look forward to movement on this! Sounds like a very interesting group of people, and I'm glad you're joining! Lodewijk
2013/5/31 Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com
Hi Lodewijk, Thank you for your concern and efforts. Actually, the answer is no, I didn't encounter that website. However, according to the definition of a monument given by Wikipedia, it shouldn't include only archaeological sites, but also another variety of buildings and and structures with a particular historical or national importance. For publishing the list, I think they would be extremely collaborative just if we talk them about the contest, and how important it is to have Jordan represented in it :)
The editors who have confirmed participation so far are five (including me), and the number could possibly rise up to eight. It may worth noting that half of those have been editing Wikipedia for over three years, and are current/previous admins with a very good wiki experience.
The language used will be definitely Arabic, which is the sole official language of Jordan. Thank you,Abbad. From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:48:21 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi Abbad, did you already encounter this page on the website of the Department of Antiquities? http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5049&MlID=8
Every governorate seems to contain a small list of archaeological sites in that region. Also, some data might be collected via http://www.getty.edu/conservation/our_projects/field_projects/jordan/jordan_... .
The Law of Antiquities ( http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5017&MlID=5 ) suggests that the term "Antique Sites" is what you are looking for. All these should have been announced in the Official Gazette, and therefore matter of public record. The General Department of Antiquities should have a register, as per art.3.3 , so I would naively suggest to call them and ask if they published it already somewhere, and if they can email it to you. As they are together with the Tourism department nowadays, they might be motivated by the argument that it is good for Tourism to have more information on Wikipedia :)
Out of curiosity, how many volunteers are involved at this point? What would be the language project that you would be using as your basis? (i.e. arwiki, enwiki?)
Please let us know if there is any way we can practically help. Best regards,Lodewijk
2013/5/30 Abbad Diraneyya aaddira@hotmail.com
Of course, Santi. Petra will have a very special part, it is our mascot ;) Abbad.
From: wikimillars@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:28:59 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
Santi (Millars)
From: aaddira@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to public, but I hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of culture. The website is yet to be created :)
Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us! Thank you,Abbad.
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