Hi Peter,

Answering your questions:

*How many pix will it work with? - 15,000 seemed to work ok.

There's virtually no limit... just bear in mind that the more images you get, the more "tokens" you should generate if you don't want to have your juri individuals to evaluate an unbearable number of photos....

*Can "random voters" participate, or do they need to log in, i.e. can a big group be invited to participate.

That's up to you. You can either generate dozens (hundreds?) of tokens, or do it like we did: setup a single token for the "Community". Of course if you ask 100 persons to share a token, it's possibly that you see odd things, like "voting" wars hehehe

*How are the votes totalled up (including all voters)?

Not sure to what phase/pass you are referring to... there's no voting in the first pass, just a pre-selection for the presential meeting. Just then it will be possible to vote, and it's kind of a SUM of weights (given by each juri member).

*Do the pix all have to be transfered from Commons to another site, or can it be all done on Commons?

It *should* be done directly through Commons. Just the presential voting was kind of optional, just because I feared we could miss an Internet connection there.

*How did it work in practice - were there any glitches last year?

You mean for us, specifically with this tool? Can't remember, actually.... but it's possible, since the tool was made in a couple of hours :-)

-NT

Em 05-08-2012 23:34, Peter Ekman escreveu:

I only got this after my last post. This looks like the best tool I've seen by far! Can we get lots more details? *How many pix will it work with? - 15,000 seemed to work ok. *Can "random voters" participate, or do they need to log in, i.e. can a big group be invited to participate. *How are the votes totalled up (including all voters)? *Do the pix all have to be transfered from Commons to another site, or can it be all done on Commons? *How did it work in practice - were there any glitches last year?

Any help appreciated. Smallbones

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2012/6/24 Nuno Tavares<nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>

 Greetings all,

 We had such a tool running on our website. Briefly:

 * We create tokens for each juri;
 * We randomly assign images for each token (each will get
 TOTAL/TOKENS images approx.), putting them on a "bucket level 1";
 * Then, the token is sent to the juri person, which will use it to
 browse through the gallery of his assigned photos, and the selection
 process begins.

 * The selection process consists in 2 passes:
 -- The juri person either "promotes" interesting images to "bucket
 2" or "demotes" uninteresting images to "bucket 0" (to mark them as
 viewed).
 -- Most probably, in the end the juri person has selected too much
 images for bucket 2, so the last step is to demote images from
 bucket 2 to 1 again.

 In the end, the bucket 2 should have the number we established (50)
 for him to have present on the juri presencial meeting.

 The tool was further extended for helping during the juri presencial
 meeting: people gather somewhere, and the tool merges the 50
 selected photos from each, and then a voting mechanism is due: each
 juri present will assign a classification.

 At the end, the selection list is downloaded (for mobility) and
 ordered to clear out exequo's (each juri will change his vote
 according to the discussion).

 You can have a "status" from last year, here:

 http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.__pt/tools/juri/status.php
 <http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.pt/tools/juri/status.php>

 And I believe you can try things (this is a "running copy" of the
 old site):

 http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.__pt/tools/juri/?token=a5e88407-__be35-11e1-a7d1-eae4baf4981c
 <http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.pt/tools/juri/?token=a5e88407-be35-11e1-a7d1-eae4baf4981c>

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