Bonjour Sylvain,
just to be clear: I'm not against it, I'm just a bit sceptical we can still
pull this off :)
2011/8/24 Sylvain Boissel <sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr>
2011/8/23 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
Hi Sylvain, all,
although it sounds exciting, I'm afraid we have to be realistic.
1) it is rather impossible to fly in all winners - even if we have the
budget for that (which we don't) - because of the tight time frame. If we
fly nobody in, it would basically be a press conference, and no press will
be really interested in that I assume.
If by "all winners", you mean the 180 winners (10 selected pics * 18
participating countries), I agree, of course. But flying in the final
winners of the European contest (how many are they supposed to be, by the
way ? There is no indication about that in
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Concept )
can be realistic.
Depending on possibilities we could define 3-12 winners (12 = the number
that will end up on the calendars).
The problem with flying in people is however more complicated:
- deadline for the european jury is November 21
- the ceremony or announcement should be begin of December.
that gives the winners at most 2 weeks to plan their trip (possibly visa)
etc.
We did discuss this in Berlin too, and concluded it was unlikely to be
possible. An option would be to delay the ceremony until later (likely to be
February because Jan is already full for most people with events), but we
felt that would be too far away for a ceremony.
Basically, what we want to do is a combination of the following :
- Held a small award ceremony, giving their prize to the winners. No need
to have hundreds of people to come...
- An exhibition of the winning photographs
- A conference about some topic on which we want the eurodeputies to work
and which is relevant to the contest (the first thing that comes to mind is
Freedom of Panorama.)
- At the same time, a "Wikimedia Takes Brussels" :)
IMO, none of these would necesit more time or money than we can afford.
That depends of course on whether you would like the participants to come
from Brussels region or from all over Europe. Travel costs add up quickly.
Exhibition would be nice anyway by the way, and is not limited to December -
if we remove the ceremony part, things become much more flexible and easy to
organize. I'm not sure if the other parties involved would still be
interested then?
2) currently, we have no budget for a ceremony -
so you would have to find
that (there was money budgetted, but since we were not able to fill in all
budget with money from chapters, we have to limit ourselves)
I think Wikimédia France can pay for what is related to the event itself,
and maybe the other European chapters can help with the transportation and
accomodation of the winners ?
3) at least Maarten and I have no time to
organize such a meeting - it
requires quite a lot of work because you need to get an interesting program
to attract people in the first place.
Maarten and you have already done much, we don't ask you anything ;)
4) We got accepted at DISH 2011, and can do the
prize announcement in the
presentation there.
What is it ? I've never heard of that...
DISH is an biannual (every 2 year) conference in the World Trade Center
Rotterdam - an international event about Digital Heritage Strategies. See
also
http://www.dish2011.nl/ . I think Maarten communicated about that
before on this list, but could probably answer any questions that are left.
Regards,
Sylvain.
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Sylvain Boissel
Chargé de mission communauté et technologie de Wikimédia France
www.wikimedia.fr
06.18.90.71.04 - sylvain.boissel(a)wikimedia.fr
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