The three activities are now moved to the main page.
On 5 December 2014 at 14:13, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
I have posted it in talk page and emailed to the group for discussion. If there is no objection or additional discussion in the next 7 days, I'll copy it from talk page to the main page itself.
On 5 December 2014 at 14:09, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well?
Thanks!
Best, Lodewijk
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of high-impact activities that may be included in the training.
- How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This
is one of the biggest problem for WLM. 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our competition more attractive. 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Tr...
On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and the offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input on it so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, rather than uninterested!
I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I tried to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, we need to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. If we can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had in mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: if we don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the idea, and let it be. Would be sad!
Looking forward to your input on
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Trainin...
Lodewijk
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not having specifics yet :)
Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same philosophy), it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different countries, but that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even if we share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to the implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that this could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the costs (especially in volunteer organizing time).
In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale, we had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year. Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective network of people helping each other to organize effective competitions - sharing skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion a major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in 2012 we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam).
At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful work done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression that both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better international coordination could have helped the competition.
I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can be strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in the beginning.
First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of organizers should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, the pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of our time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the money etc - that is a separate discussion.
My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's going to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be worth it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons.
Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts,
Lodewijk
PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team again :) Just want to be realistic.
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