Hi Lodewijk, I signed myself as willing to help, and I wrote a note in "Target group". I have more idea on how to help, but wanted to see how this initial idea will be accepted from the others. Username: Violetova Regards, Zana 2014-11-06 23:20 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

(Sorry for the previous email, accidentally clicked sent.) Hi Lodewijk, This initiative is very interesting. At the Learning and Evaluation team we always look forward to capture the learning processes that take place within the movement, and share that knowledge as much as possible. I want to offer support in this initiative to anyone who joins this effort: do reach out and tell me how we can best help you. I have now added the project on Commons to my watchlist and will follow up with news there. At this point, I also wanted to share in this thread the information we already have about WLM, which includes key lessons learned. The Evaluation Report (beta)* [1] *was the first outlet produced by our team about the most common Wikimedia programs. You can see the specific report for WLM here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013/W… This report was possible thanks to the I Round of Data Collection, a period in which program leaders all over the world can join voluntary program reporting and submit their data on Wikimedia programs. Right now, we are going through II Round of Data Collection *[2]*, and obviously, we are looking for data! Anyone can submit their data on WLM 2013 and WLM 2014. Questions or comments can be directed to me. With this second round, we want to improve the first report, expand it and make it better. Hopefully, it will also help inform the training you are looking forward to have. Why are we looking for program data? It helps us understand how programs work, how much effort they take, and what results they bring to the movement at large. Most importantly, it gives us leads on potential for further development of programs, ways to innovate, try things that haven't been done before. As always, I am here to help. Reach out with questions and comments! Thanks, *María Cruz * \\ Community Coordinator, PE&D Team \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. mcruz(a)wikimedia.org | : @marianarra_ <https://twitter.com/marianarra_> Links: *[1] Evaluation Report (beta):* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013 *[2] II Round of Data Collection:* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/News/Round_II_Announcement On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Zana Strkovska &lt;777.zana(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of high-impact activities that may be included in the training. 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This is one of the biggest problem for WLM. 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our competition more attractive. 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/T… On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; wrote: on it tried need in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Traini… philosophy), countries, but if we this costs we network of a 2012 that be the the our money worth _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

I have posted it in talk page and emailed to the group for discussion. If there is no objection or additional discussion in the next 7 days, I'll copy it from talk page to the main page itself. On 5 December 2014 at 14:09, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; wrote: > Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well? > > Thanks! > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki &lt;KaewWiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >> I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from >> veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of >> high-impact activities that may be included in the training. >> >> 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This >> is one of the biggest problem for WLM. >> 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our >> competition more attractive. >> 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to >> participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to >> bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a >> pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as >> if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion >> criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article. >> >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/T… >> >> On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and >> > the >> > offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input >> > on it >> > so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, rather >> > than uninterested! >> > >> > I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I >> > tried >> > to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, we >> > need >> > to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. If >> > we >> > can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had >> > in >> > mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: if >> > we >> > don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the >> > idea, >> > and let it be. Would be sad! >> > >> > Looking forward to your input on >> > >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Traini… >> > >> > Lodewijk >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not >> >> having specifics yet :) >> >> >> >> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves >> >> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same >> >> philosophy), >> >> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different >> >> countries, but >> >> that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even >> >> if we >> >> share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to the >> >> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that >> >> this >> >> could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the >> >> costs >> >> (especially in volunteer organizing time). >> >> >> >> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale, >> >> we >> >> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from >> >> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year. >> >> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective >> >> network of >> >> people helping each other to organize effective competitions - sharing >> >> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion >> >> a >> >> major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in >> >> 2012 >> >> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam). >> >> >> >> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an >> >> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful >> >> work >> >> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression >> >> that >> >> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better >> >> international coordination could have helped the competition. >> >> >> >> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be >> >> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers >> >> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best >> >> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can >> >> be >> >> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in >> >> the >> >> beginning. >> >> >> >> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so >> >> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of >> >> organizers >> >> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, >> >> the >> >> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of >> >> our >> >> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the >> >> money >> >> etc - that is a separate discussion. >> >> >> >> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's >> >> going >> >> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be >> >> worth >> >> it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be >> >> highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons. >> >> >> >> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts, >> >> >> >> Lodewijk >> >> >> >> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future >> >> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team >> >> again :) Just want to be realistic. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Would anyone consider going over the technical side of running the contests? Tutorials on the banners, how it also auto-categorize the uploads, etc.. *ROEL BALINGIT* *Treasurer* *______________________________________________________________* *WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES* *G/F Gervacia Center, 152 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, 1229 Makati City* *T: +63-2-8123277 | F: +63-2-8127177 | M: +63-917-8807635 * *W: **www.wikimedia.org.ph <http://www.wikimedia.org.ph/> | E: roel.balingit(a)wikimedia.org.ph &lt;roel.balingit(a)wikimedia.org.ph&gt;* ******************************************************************* ******************************************** This e-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ******************************************************************* ******************************************** On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:40 AM, KaewWiki &lt;KaewWiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Would anyone consider going over the technical side of running the contests? Tutorials on the banners, how it also auto-categorize the uploads, etc..

Thank you, Pawel! We all have been always following your tool for statistics. :-) On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Paweł Marynowski &lt;yarl(a)o2.pl&gt; wrote: -- Regards from Mumbai, Karthik Nadar. (+91) 977-360-8862 Board Member, Wikimedia India Chapter. Bangalore, India. http://wiki.wikimedia.in _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

Hi Lodewijk, Planning is a never ending process, I thin we need to freeze somewhere and go ahead with the budget. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; wrote: -- Regards from Mumbai, Karthik Nadar. (+91) 977-360-8862 Board Member, Wikimedia India Chapter. Bangalore, India. http://wiki.wikimedia.in _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

From the beginning it was clear that this kind of meeting could only work

Onto it! On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; wrote: -- Regards from Mumbai, Karthik Nadar. (+91) 977-360-8862 Board Member, Wikimedia India Chapter. Bangalore, India. http://wiki.wikimedia.in _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

ps: thank you very much to the people who did actively participate! Your input is very much appreciated, and I don't want an image to exist that nobody helped at all :) On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org