Dear Leila,
I can also repeat my point on list. Russian WLM organizers need the time until October 31 in order to identify and properly transfer no-FOP files. The Russian organizers really need this time. They are unable and they will not work in a different time frame. If Commons community accepts this, we are all fine. If they do not accept it, we have to say good-bye to Commons.
Sincerely, Alexander
On 14.09.2016 21:38, Lily wrote:
Hi Yaroslav and others,
I'm sorry that we are going through these current events. As a WLM organizer, I feel the pain of organizing a contest, encouraging people to participate, but then seeing or imagining their disappointment. The one thing that gives the most motivation to me is to see people succeed in doing the upload, not to see them fail. From what I read at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:%... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B295_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers I also see some of the difficulties that the Commons community are facing. This is not a pleasant situation for anyone. We are all in this for helping people share in the sum of all knowledge. At the moment, we are distracted.
We are seeing a failure of potentially more than one part of our system. As a team of people working towards the same goal, we should investigate what has happened from the beginning to the end, understand what has gone wrong and where (no blaming of each other, simply understanding), and come up with processes for fixing the broken parts. This will help us not have to visit a similar problem again and move forward together and more efficiently.
I will reach out to some of you involved in this discussion off-list to start a (postmortem) discussion. In the mean time, I ask all of you to consider the other side and treat each other with humility, trust, and respect.
Best, Leila
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod@mccme.ru mailto:putevod@mccme.ru> wrote:
On 14.09.2016 20:50, Marco Chiesa wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod@mccme.ru <mailto:putevod@mccme.ru>> wrote: The files have been deleted, meaning we will advise WLM participants not to use Commons anymore. By the way, such images would not qualify for WLM anyway, since they are copyvios. Cruccone _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org> I know. The problems are demotivation of new users and excess work for Commons admins (in this case, most likely, me) to undelete these images for transfer to the Russian Wikivoyage (and, possibly, Wikipedia). Cheers Yaroslav _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org>-- User: LilyOfTheWest
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