Dear Leila,
I can also repeat my point on list. Russian WLM organizers need the time
until October 31 in order to identify and properly transfer no-FOP
files. The Russian organizers really need this time. They are unable and
they will not work in a different time frame. If Commons community
accepts this, we are all fine. If they do not accept it, we have to say
good-bye to Commons.
Sincerely,
Alexander
On 14.09.2016 21:38, Lily wrote:
Hi Yaroslav and others,
I'm sorry that we are going through these current events. As a WLM
organizer, I feel the pain of organizing a contest, encouraging people
to participate, but then seeing or imagining their disappointment. The
one thing that gives the most motivation to me is to see people
succeed in doing the upload, not to see them fail. From what I read at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:…
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B295_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers>
I also see some of the difficulties that the Commons community are
facing. This is not a pleasant situation for anyone. We are all in
this for helping people share in the sum of all knowledge. At the
moment, we are distracted.
We are seeing a failure of potentially more than one part of our
system. As a team of people working towards the same goal, we should
investigate what has happened from the beginning to the end,
understand what has gone wrong and where (no blaming of each other,
simply understanding), and come up with processes for fixing the
broken parts. This will help us not have to visit a similar problem
again and move forward together and more efficiently.
I will reach out to some of you involved in this discussion off-list
to start a (postmortem) discussion. In the mean time, I ask all of you
to consider the other side and treat each other with humility, trust,
and respect.
Best,
Leila
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter
<putevod(a)mccme.ru <mailto:putevod@mccme.ru>> wrote:
On 14.09.2016 20:50, Marco Chiesa wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter
<putevod(a)mccme.ru <mailto:putevod@mccme.ru>> wrote:
The files have been deleted, meaning we will advise WLM
participants not to
use Commons anymore.
By the way, such images would not qualify for WLM anyway,
since they
are copyvios.
Cruccone
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I know. The problems are demotivation of new users and excess work
for Commons admins (in this case, most likely, me) to undelete
these images for transfer to the Russian Wikivoyage (and,
possibly, Wikipedia).
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Yaroslav
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