Hmm, yeah, sounds like a common discussion: how high to put the bar. Thanks
for the explanation Andrew, it is helpful to understand the reasoning
behind this decision.
2013/8/19 Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk>
Hi Maarten,
Some notes I made a while back on the problems with including Grade II
(and equivalent):
a) The lists become huge and difficult to maintain;
b) Grade II contains many of the "non-building" listings; looking at the
703 Grade II in Cambridge, the first few on the list include a statue, a
boathouse, a couple of walls, and some gates. On my way to work, I cycle
past two telephone boxes, an unremarkable river lock, some respectable
terraced cottages... all grade II listed, and all within a few hundred
meters on the same road. They're individually registered, but they're not
what the general public would consider "listed buildings" (and personally
I'd argue that a lot simply aren't very interesting from Commons'
perspective)
c) Because it contains so many buildings, a lot of them are still people's
homes. This gets us into some complicated and concerning issues; I am not
sure there's much benefit to running a contest encouraging people to go and
take lots of pictures of relatively anonymous houses, and it's quite
possibly going to backfire if we do. It's still something of an issue with
WLM in general, but I'd argue that a Grade I or II* building is less likely
to feel weird in this regard - if you live in it, you're a bit more used to
the idea of public attention than if you live in a less distinctive
building. Grade II almost certainly contains a much higher number of
private residences both proportionately and absolutely.
Andrew.
On 19 August 2013 21:12, Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl> wrote:
Hi,
I was just clicking around and ended up at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/
**wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**Monuments_2013_in_the_United_**
Kingdom/Eligible_buildings<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wi…gs>.
I compared it to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Listed_buildings_in_the_**United_Kingdom<…
it looks like your excluding 85% of the listed buildings from
participation. Why? :-(
Maarten
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