Hi Lodewijk,
WLM Ukraine's organizing team is interested in this discussion, but it's
difficult to find time for it on such a short notice -- because of the
armed conflict most Ukrainian Wikimedians have to simultaneously fit into
their agendas their main work, Wikimedia volunteering and activities we
have to do because of the war. For example, I have an emergency casualty
care training this Sunday, and another team member cannot join because she
goes to a training area for drills on the same day.
We ask that you take these circumstances into consideration and notify
us in advance in the future.
Regards,
Illia
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 2:23 AM effe iets anders <
effeietsanders(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
(with apologies for the delay in sending this announcement)
This email discusses a sensitive topic of armed conflict, and may
contain triggers for some of our community members. While we appreciate
your input, please prioritize your own mental wellbeing and don't feel
obligated to respond or participate. I have tried to frame this as
sensitively as possible, but welcome constructive suggestions on how to do
this better off-list.
Summary: On Sunday 21 January (08:00 PST, 16:00 UTC), the
international team of Wiki Loves Monuments will organize an office
hour/community conversation on: How should an international federated photo
competition like WLM handle national teams, international finalists and
communication in the case of geopolitical armed conflict. We will announce
the link later, and you can register here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2023/Office…
Topic: In the past years, our communities have been confronted with
the question how to deal with a number of geopolitical armed conflicts.
This question came up in the past years in a few different ways: whether
photos of heritage from certain countries should be allowed to be
represented or compete in international competitions like Wiki Loves
Monuments, whether and how photos of heritage in disputed areas can
participate (especially when that dispute becomes an armed conflict) and
there are probably more ways ahead that various armed conflicts can make an
international competition and communication about the competition complex.
There is no question whether human and cultural destruction is desirable,
and every war is likely one too many.
Why now: It is particularly hard to discuss these sensitive topics
when they are current: it is a painful conversation for everyone to have,
especially because the people who are living through the real-life
consequences are given an additional burden of engaging in these
discussions, under the pressure of time.
For this reason I believe it would be helpful to discuss this topic
without focusing on a specific conflict - but rather to discuss principles.
How would we, generally speaking, international competitions such as Wiki
Loves Monuments like to be influenced by armed conflict? Are there
guidelines that they could maintain? At this point, we don't know who the
winners of Wiki Loves Monuments are, and we can still have an abstract
conversation. I don't expect this conversation to conclude right away, but
hope that we can continue it in a few months after the dust of the winning
images has settled.
While this is already very soon, we have settled on Sunday 21 January,
16:00 UTC to avoid getting too close to the announcement of international
winners.
Framing: Some questions that come to mind as useful conversation
starters would include:
* Under what conditions could or should a national team be disqualified
from participating in an international federated activity such as WLM?
* If yes, who should make the decision whether to disqualify, and using
what criteria? Who should they consult?
* Under what conditions could or should the national submissions be
disqualified, if a national competition already has taken place?
* Should the international team make efforts to not appear to support
an armed conflict when communicating about the competition, or even
previous events? What are some guidelines that they could follow?
I would invite others to contribute in framing a constructive
conversation (publicly or privately - when in doubt, just email me
privately).
Conversation timeline: We want this to be the start of a constructive
community conversation with national organizers, international organizers
and other community members who feel they can constructively contribute. We
welcome contributions from organizers of other similar international
competitions/activities. The conversation will be in English but if there
is sufficient interest, we can see if we can organize translation resources
in future conversations. You can sign up here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2023/Office…
. Please do sign up, in case we have to share the link privately.
As mentioned, I don't expect this conversation to be "one and done".
It's a first step, and I expect to follow up with a next conversation in a
few months, and again around Wikimania - if there is sufficient interest.
I will guide this conversation as a former WLM international team
member and a current advisor.
Warmly,
Lodewijk
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