Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Request for input: Wiki Loves-training

-- Regards from Mumbai, Karthik Nadar. (+91) 977-360-8862 Board Member, Wikimedia India Chapter. Bangalore, India. http://wiki.wikimedia.in On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Roel Balingit < roel.balingit@wikimedia.org.ph> wrote: > > Would anyone consider going over the technical side of running the > contests? Tutorials on the banners, how it also auto-categorize the > uploads, etc.. > > > > > > *ROEL BALINGIT* > *Treasurer* > *______________________________________________________________* > *WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES* > *G/F Gervacia Center, 152 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, 1229 Makati > City* > *T: +63-2-8123277 | F: +63-2-8127177 | M: +63-917-8807635 * > *W: **www.wikimedia.org.ph http://www.wikimedia.org.ph/ | > E: roel.balingit@wikimedia.org.ph roel.balingit@wikimedia.org.ph* > > ******************************************************************* > ******************************************** > This e-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. 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The > sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. > ******************************************************************* > ******************************************** > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:40 AM, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote: > >> The three activities are now moved to the main page. >> >> On 5 December 2014 at 14:13, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote: >> > I have posted it in talk page and emailed to the group for discussion. >> > If there is no objection or additional discussion in the next 7 days, >> > I'll copy it from talk page to the main page itself. >> > >> > On 5 December 2014 at 14:09, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org >> wrote: >> >> Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Lodewijk >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from >> >>> veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of >> >>> high-impact activities that may be included in the training. >> >>> >> >>> 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This >> >>> is one of the biggest problem for WLM. >> >>> 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our >> >>> competition more attractive. >> >>> 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to >> >>> participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to >> >>> bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a >> >>> pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as >> >>> if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion >> >>> criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Tr... >> >>> >> >>> On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Hi all, >> >>> > >> >>> > aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, >> and >> >>> > the >> >>> > offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little >> input >> >>> > on it >> >>> > so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, >> rather >> >>> > than uninterested! >> >>> > >> >>> > I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, >> I >> >>> > tried >> >>> > to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, >> we >> >>> > need >> >>> > to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. >> If >> >>> > we >> >>> > can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I >> had >> >>> > in >> >>> > mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: >> if >> >>> > we >> >>> > don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the >> >>> > idea, >> >>> > and let it be. Would be sad! >> >>> > >> >>> > Looking forward to your input on >> >>> > >> >>> > >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Trainin... >> >>> > >> >>> > Lodewijk >> >>> > >> >>> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk < >> lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi all, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down >> for not >> >>> >> having specifics yet :) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki >> Loves >> >>> >> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same >> >>> >> philosophy), >> >>> >> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different >> >>> >> countries, but >> >>> >> that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. >> Even >> >>> >> if we >> >>> >> share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to >> the >> >>> >> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and >> that >> >>> >> this >> >>> >> could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the >> >>> >> costs >> >>> >> (especially in volunteer organizing time). >> >>> >> >> >>> >> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global >> scale, >> >>> >> we >> >>> >> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from >> >>> >> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that >> year. >> >>> >> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective >> >>> >> network of >> >>> >> people helping each other to organize effective competitions - >> sharing >> >>> >> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my >> opinion >> >>> >> a >> >>> >> major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and >> 2012 (in >> >>> >> 2012 >> >>> >> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam). >> >>> >> >> >>> >> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together >> an >> >>> >> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful >> >>> >> work >> >>> >> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the >> impression >> >>> >> that >> >>> >> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a >> better >> >>> >> international coordination could have helped the competition. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it >> would be >> >>> >> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of >> organizers >> >>> >> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, >> best >> >>> >> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally >> can >> >>> >> be >> >>> >> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a >> push in >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> beginning. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and >> if so >> >>> >> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of >> >>> >> organizers >> >>> >> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the >> budget, >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise >> investment of >> >>> >> our >> >>> >> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request >> the >> >>> >> money >> >>> >> etc - that is a separate discussion. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's >> >>> >> going >> >>> >> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could >> be >> >>> >> worth >> >>> >> it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input >> would be >> >>> >> highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Lodewijk >> >>> >> >> >>> >> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future >> >>> >> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international >> team >> >>> >> again :) Just want to be realistic. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> >>> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >>> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >