Hi Nuno,
my definition of a new user would be: * No log entries or edits on any project before their first submission ** unless their first submission was for some reason disqualified, and now is in the log like a normal upload ** unless they made a few edits related to WLM (relevant measurable criteria: account creation after 28/8, less than 50 edits before their first upload)
Lodewijk
Am 15. September 2011 01:01 schrieb Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt :
Well, dear fellows, I just hit a definition issue. How would you classify a "new user"?
- A user whose registration date is before a date (01-09-2011 GMT-1)?
- A user whose participation initiated after that date?
I'd say that the strict and technical definition would go the first option. However, should a user with no single edit be not considered a newbie? In Portuguese wikipedia, such a user wouldn't even be allowed to vote....
-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
Em 14-09-2011 22:59, Kilian Kluge escreveu:
Thank you very much!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> wrote:
Kilian, user_is_new is now exported: (per user)http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&a...
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-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt Em 14-09-2011 15:30, Kilian Kluge escreveu: > Hi Nuno, > > is it possible to see how many pictures were uploaded by the new > contributors? >60% seems impressive, but it would be very interesting to > see what their share is. > > Kilian > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Nuno Tavares > <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>> wrote: > > Strainu, > > I've already stated that ranking.php has problems. I found late some > weird behaviours from mediawiki (like Rotatebot appearing as the image > uploader, which is not correct) so I had to apply some"emergency"
> measures which didn't work quite well either. I didn't state "new users" > which an important detail in my opinion. > > That's why you probably heard about statistics v2 already: > >http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&a...
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> > I believe these are nearly complete and absolutely more precise. As a > consequence, everything at this URL (scope=user, dump, etc) is. > > Please give me your feedback regarding the tool. > > -- > Nuno Tavares > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt > > Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que > estamos a fazer. > > Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt > > Em 13-09-2011 21:53, Strainu escreveu: > > Hi Nuno, > > > > Could you please explain the limitations of your tool? > > > > I thought you just take the last person that modified the page, but > > I'm looking at >http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7...
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> > and I see the following: > > > > - I have 76 files credited to my account, however > > >http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title...
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> > shows that I have under 50 actually uploaded > > - I edited all but one of this user's files: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Adinecsoi , but > > they are still credited to her > > - I also edited several other files of this user: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Korinna And it > > appears she is credited with less than the total number of photos (as > > far as I can tell, all her uploads are in the contest) > > > > I would love if you could clarify this for me. > > > > Thanks, > > Strainu > > > > 2011/9/5 <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> > <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>>: > >> Errmmmm, *cof* I forgot to update ~erfgoed/tools. Try again > Vicenç (and > >> Lodewijk). > >> > >> In any case, more interesting (and thorough) statistics will come > during > >> this week (I hope), this was just for fun. > >> > >> -NT > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:13:17 +0000, Vicenç Riullop > <vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com> <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Seems it doesnt work with Spain either. > >> Now, > >> >http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7...
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> >> returns user Pere prlpz with 148 submissions and he doesnt appear > in the > >> global list. > >> > >> Anyway, good work, Nuno. > >> > >> Vicenç > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:27:25 +0100 > >>> From: nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>> > >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings > >>> > >>> Thanks Lodewijk, > >>> > >>> It had to do with bot filtering. It should be OK now. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Nuno Tavares > >>> Wikimedia Portugal > >>> http://www.wikimedia.pt > >>> > >>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa apossibilidade
> de ter > >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso > o que > >>> estamos a fazer. > >>> > >>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt > >>> > >>> Em 05-09-2011 07:59, Lodewijk escreveu: > >>>> Hi Nuno, > >>>> > >>>> thanks for the work! It seems that the full overview of > uploaders is not > >>>> error free. I.e. > >>>> in > >>>> >http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7...
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> >>>> Spider > >>>> has now 219 uploads for NL, but > >>>> on http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php he doesn't > appear > >>>> at all. > >>>> > >>>> Interesting to see by the way how some countries have such higher > >>>> averages of photos per uploader :) > >>>> > >>>> Lodewijk > >>>> > >>>> Am 5. September 2011 05:02 schrieb Nuno Tavares > >>>>> : > >>>> > >>>> I see I'm not the only statsanatic :) > >>>> > >>>> I've commited the tool, please use the official URL: > >>>> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php > >>>> > >>>> Examples: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images%7Clinks&a...
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> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7...
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> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Nuno Tavares > >>>> Wikimedia Portugal > >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt > >>>> > >>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade > de ter > >>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso > o que > >>>> estamos a fazer. > >>>> > >>>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt > >>>> > >>>> Em 04-09-2011 21:53, M escreveu: > >>>>> Thirded, very cool! > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------- > >>>>> María Sefidari > >>>>> Wikimedia España > >>>>> http://www.wikimedia.org.es > >>>>> Mensaje enviado desde mi iTouch > >>>>> > >>>>> El 04/09/2011, a las 22:04, Jan Ainali > > > >>>>>>> > >>>> escribió: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I second that, nice work!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Jane Darnell <> > >jane023@gmail.com <mailto:jane023@gmail.com> > <mailto:jane023@gmail.com <mailto:jane023@gmail.com>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Nuno, > >>>>>> I love it - keep the statistics coming, I like the way you think! > >>>>>> Jane > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Nuno Tavares > >>>>>> <> > >nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> > <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now, the rankings per country (parameter scope): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=imag...
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> >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Nuno Tavares > >>>>>> Wikimedia Portugal > >>>>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a > >>>> possibilidade > >>>>>> de ter > >>>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.É
> >>>>>> isso o que > >>>>>> estamos a fazer. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Participe também: > >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Em 04-09-2011 20:30, Nuno Tavares escreveu: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&s...
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> >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Clicking on a country (Portugal): > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&s...
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> >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you notice Accepted column: for Portugal we reviewthe
> >>>>>> images and, > >>>>>>> after that, they are placed in "Reviewed images from > >>>>>> WLM...". If you > >>>>>>> have a similar approach I can tweak the script to > >>>>>> personalize it. It > >>>>>>> would be better to unify the categories' names,though...
> >>>>>> Which ones are > >>>>>>> yours? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PS: I didn't notice the reuploads (e.g. by Rotatebot) would > >>>>>> scramble > >>>>>>> things a bit, so I excluded the bots from this -admitting
> >>>>>> noone would > >>>>>>> reupload other one's image. So please report if you see > >>>>>> something in error. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -NT > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>>>> > >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>>>> > >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Med vänliga hälsningar > >>>>>> Jan Ainali > >>>>>> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige > >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> > >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > >>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
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