Am 15. September 2011 01:01 schrieb Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>:

Well, dear fellows, I just hit a definition issue. How would you
classify a "new user"?

1. A user whose registration date is before a date (01-09-2011 GMT-1)?
2. A user whose participation initiated after that date?

I'd say that the strict and technical definition would go the first
option. However, should a user with no single edit be not considered a
newbie? In Portuguese wikipedia, such a user wouldn't even be allowed to
vote....

--

Nuno Tavares
Wikimedia Portugal
http://www.wikimedia.pt

Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
estamos a fazer.

Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt

Em 14-09-2011 22:59, Kilian Kluge escreveu:

> Thank you very much!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt

> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>> wrote:
>

> Kilian,
>
> user_is_new is now exported:
>
> (per user)
>
> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=user&ctcountry=Portugal&ctitem=user|user_is_new|n_images
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=user&ctcountry=Portugal&ctitem=user|user_is_new|n_images>
>
> (per country)
>
> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country>
>
>
> --
> Nuno Tavares
> Wikimedia Portugal
> http://www.wikimedia.pt
>
> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
>
> Em 14-09-2011 15:30, Kilian Kluge escreveu:
> > Hi Nuno,
> >
> > is it possible to see how many pictures were uploaded by the new
> > contributors? >60% seems impressive, but it would be very
> interesting to
> > see what their share is.
> >
> > Kilian
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Nuno Tavares
> > <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>
> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>> wrote:
> >
> > Strainu,
> >
> > I've already stated that ranking.php has problems. I found
> late some
> > weird behaviours from mediawiki (like Rotatebot appearing as
> the image
> > uploader, which is not correct) so I had to apply some "emergency"
> > measures which didn't work quite well either. I didn't state
> "new users"
> > which an important detail in my opinion.
> >
> > That's why you probably heard about statistics v2 already:
> >
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country>>
> >
> > I believe these are nearly complete and absolutely more
> precise. As a
> > consequence, everything at this URL (scope=user, dump, etc) is.
> >
> > Please give me your feedback regarding the tool.
> >
> > --
> > Nuno Tavares
> > Wikimedia Portugal
> > http://www.wikimedia.pt
> >
> > Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade
> de ter
> > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É
> isso o que
> > estamos a fazer.
> >
> > Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
> >
> > Em 13-09-2011 21:53, Strainu escreveu:
> > > Hi Nuno,
> > >
> > > Could you please explain the limitations of your tool?
> > >
> > > I thought you just take the last person that modified the
> page, but
> > > I'm looking at
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania>>
> > > and I see the following:
> > >
> > > - I have 76 files credited to my account, however
> > >
> >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu
> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu>
> >
> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu
> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu>>
> > > shows that I have under 50 actually uploaded
> > > - I edited all but one of this user's files:
> > >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Adinecsoi , but
> > > they are still credited to her
> > > - I also edited several other files of this user:
> > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Korinna
> And it
> > > appears she is credited with less than the total number of
> photos (as
> > > far as I can tell, all her uploads are in the contest)
> > >
> > > I would love if you could clarify this for me.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Strainu
> > >
> > > 2011/9/5 <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>
> > <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>>:
> > >> Errmmmm, *cof* I forgot to update ~erfgoed/tools. Try again
> > Vicenç (and
> > >> Lodewijk).
> > >>
> > >> In any case, more interesting (and thorough) statistics
> will come
> > during
> > >> this week (I hope), this was just for fun.
> > >>
> > >> -NT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:13:17 +0000, Vicenç Riullop
> > <vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com>

> <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com>>>

> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Seems it doesnt work with Spain either.
> > >> Now,
> > >>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain>>
> > >> returns user Pere prlpz with 148 submissions and he doesnt
> appear
> > in the
> > >> global list.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, good work, Nuno.
> > >>
> > >> Vicenç
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:27:25 +0100
> > >>> From: nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt

> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt

> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>
> > >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
> <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
> > <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
> <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Lodewijk,
> > >>>
> > >>> It had to do with bot filtering. It should be OK now.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Nuno Tavares
> > >>> Wikimedia Portugal
> > >>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
> > >>>
> > >>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade
> > de ter
> > >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É
> isso
> > o que
> > >>> estamos a fazer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
> > >>>
> > >>> Em 05-09-2011 07:59, Lodewijk escreveu:
> > >>>> Hi Nuno,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thanks for the work! It seems that the full overview of
> > uploaders is not
> > >>>> error free. I.e.
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands>>
> > >>>> Spider
> > >>>> has now 219 uploads for NL, but
> > >>>> on http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php he
> doesn't
> > appear
> > >>>> at all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Interesting to see by the way how some countries have
> such higher
> > >>>> averages of photos per uploader :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Lodewijk
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Am 5. September 2011 05:02 schrieb Nuno Tavares
> > >>>>> :
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I see I'm not the only statsanatic :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've commited the tool, please use the official URL:
> > >>>> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Examples:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal
> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Nuno Tavares
> > >>>> Wikimedia Portugal
> > >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a
> possibilidade
> > de ter
> > >>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.
> É isso
> > o que
> > >>>> estamos a fazer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Em 04-09-2011 21:53, M escreveu:
> > >>>>> Thirded, very cool!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ---------------
> > >>>>> María Sefidari
> > >>>>> Wikimedia España
> > >>>>> http://www.wikimedia.org.es
> > >>>>> Mensaje enviado desde mi iTouch
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> El 04/09/2011, a las 22:04, Jan Ainali > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>> escribió:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I second that, nice work!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Jane Darnell <> > >jane023@gmail.com
> <mailto:jane023@gmail.com>

> > <mailto:jane023@gmail.com <mailto:jane023@gmail.com>>

> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Nuno,
> > >>>>>> I love it - keep the statistics coming, I like the way
> you think!
> > >>>>>> Jane
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Nuno Tavares
> > >>>>>> <> > >nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>

> > <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt

> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Now, the rankings per country (parameter scope):
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Nuno Tavares
> > >>>>>> Wikimedia Portugal
> > >>>>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a
> > >>>> possibilidade
> > >>>>>> de ter
> > >>>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É
> > >>>>>> isso o que
> > >>>>>> estamos a fazer.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Participe também:
> > >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Em 04-09-2011 20:30, Nuno Tavares escreveu:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Clicking on a country (Portugal):
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal>
> >
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal
> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> If you notice Accepted column: for Portugal we review the
> > >>>>>> images and,
> > >>>>>>> after that, they are placed in "Reviewed images from
> > >>>>>> WLM...". If you
> > >>>>>>> have a similar approach I can tweak the script to
> > >>>>>> personalize it. It
> > >>>>>>> would be better to unify the categories' names, though...
> > >>>>>> Which ones are
> > >>>>>>> yours?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> PS: I didn't notice the reuploads (e.g. by Rotatebot)
> would
> > >>>>>> scramble
> > >>>>>>> things a bit, so I excluded the bots from this - admitting
> > >>>>>> noone would
> > >>>>>>> reupload other one's image. So please report if you see
> > >>>>>> something in error.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -NT
> > >>>>>>>
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