Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Geocoordinates in upload form

-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt Em 15-07-2011 12:33, Benoît Evellin escreveu: > Users just need a camera which generates and saves the geocoordinates. > How many cameras can do that ? How many users will have a camera like > this ? > > Sorry for breaking the enthusiasm, but don't you think you are > designing a feature just for few users, instead of finding a global > solution ? ;-) > > KISS without any specific technology : uploading a photo -> enter the > city name -> have a map, with coordinate system (like this ? > http://mapper.acme.com/) -> press ok when you are on location. > > Benoît > > 2011/7/15 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se: >> Yes, I see your point. A dream scenario would be to use the existing tool >> but make a mashup with the bot. When a user uploads a file with an EXIF >> coordinate, the map pops up and asks for the photographed object location, >> centered to the camera location. After the user has dropped the flag on the >> object the user press Done and everything else would be automated. >> -- >> Med vänliga hälsningar >> Jan Ainali >> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige >> >> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com >>> >>> Yes, but I would like to see a empty hole in the photo template that you >>> can just plop that info into for these monuments - remember, lots of people >>> will be VERY frightened off by that tag and in this specific case, be >>> dazzled by SEVEN options to choose from... >>> >>> 2011/7/15 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se >>>> >>>> Of the seven possible templates to copy back (down to the left on that >>>> page), the two last ones are object location. >>>> -- >>>> Med vänliga hälsningar >>>> Jan Ainali >>>> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige >>>> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> OMG OMG!!! (sorry for the enthusiasm) That is the solution right there! >>>>> You copy&paste the coords from the bot-generated camera location and then >>>>> that tool zeros right down to street level - I just tried it with the file >>>>> Tomasz sent me and the adjusted coords are returned in the same format. All >>>>> we need is a way to copy&paste those back into object location - do we have >>>>> that? >>>>> Jane >>>>> >>>>> 2011/7/15 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se >>>>>> >>>>>> If we find someone who can do some hacking (which I can't) perhaps >>>>>> there is a way to integrate this tool to let the user select the location? >>>>>> http://tools.freeside.sk/geolocator/geolocator.html >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Med vänliga hälsningar >>>>>> Jan Ainali >>>>>> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige >>>>>> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tomasz, >>>>>>> Thanks for those links! As the Dutch say, "now my wooden clog is >>>>>>> breaking". Using the wonderful link right there to open street maps, is >>>>>>> there a way to ask the user who clicked on the image to update the >>>>>>> template:location if it is empty? This way the user just needs to move the >>>>>>> geo pointer on the map to the correct location (you probably need google >>>>>>> satellite view for this, not open street maps) >>>>>>> Jane >>>>>>> 2011/7/15 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com: >>>>>>>>> Jan, I don't have a camera that does this, so I can't test it, but >>>>>>>>> do I >>>>>>>>> understand from this that the EXIF info automatically gets stuffed >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> a Template:Location (camera location) field as it stands now? >>>>>>>>> Because that >>>>>>>>> way for the countries who have their act together with the GIS >>>>>>>>> coordinates >>>>>>>>> (like the Netherlands, Ahem!) we should do nothing, and then for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> countries who are missing coordinates, we can have a bot move this >>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>> into Template:Object location and dump it into a category "GIS >>>>>>>>> coordinates >>>>>>>>> for XXX monuments under review" or some such thing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:DschwenBot >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Typical recent action of the bot: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Bersillies_%28Nord,_Fr%2... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we can simply talk to the owner of this bot to add such a >>>>>>>> functionality. Although IMHO quite substantial number of pictures of >>>>>>>> monuments are taken from some distance. especially tall and large >>>>>>>> buildings. Even if you take a picture of smaller object such as this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bersillies_%28Nord,_Fr%29_Salle_des_f... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your possition is at least 6 to 10 meters from the possition of the >>>>>>>> object. It is better than nothing but anyway it is still wrong. For >>>>>>>> example if the small church in on the corner of the small square - if >>>>>>>> you take a picture from the opposite corner which is 50 m in distance >>>>>>>> it will put the possition of the church in obviously wrong place :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz >>>>>>>> http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek >>>>>>>> http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ >>>>>>>> http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Med vänliga hälsningar >>>>>> Jan Ainali >>>>>> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > >