Well England, Scotland, and Wales are all countries within the United Kingdom (also a country). It's a bit complicated.
Four campaigns is the way to go as the IDs are different for each country.
Richard
On 8 August 2013 17:16, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with both of you - it would be nice to have one campaign per country, but technical restrictions limit us to at least one campaign per list-holder, where the list-holder is the one issuing the unique id.
2013/8/8, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello Platonides,
I follow the system that Maarten started in the previous years: if there
are
different organisations, different campaigns are used. The UK is similar
to
Belgium. Belgium has three independent organisations, one for each of the regions, that are responsible for the monument lists. For each region/organisation we have a upload campaign. This is not without
reason.
If users follow the pre-filled links to the upload campaigns it will not
be
a problem, but if users visit a national campaign via other ways it is
too
difficult for them to select the right region (certainly not unintuitive
but
unnecessary complexity). The way how it in Belgium is set up is
successful
for two years already. Also we would like to be able to create easy
links to
the individual websites of the regional organisations.
Already the UK website has to link to 4 groups of lists and four organisations, it is not strange to have four upload campaigns as well.
In
Belgium people appear to be smart enough to find the right one, I really trust the UK people are smart enough too. This is not complexity, this is easy.
Besides some details the campaigns for the UK just came ready for
testing,
only minor changes are needed.
Romaine
On Thu, 8/8/13, Platonides platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Help needed please to set up UploadCampaigns in the UK To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: "Romaine Wiki" romaine_wiki@yahoo.com, "WLM 2013 UK mailing list" wlm2013-l@wikimedia.org.uk Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013, 3:44 PM
On 07/08/13 18:15, Romaine Wiki wrote:
PS: I read on your website that there are four
organisations that each have their own lists. I think this will result in creating four campaigns instead of one.
Scotland seems to have monument IDs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_A_listed_buildings_in_Aberdeen
For the other areas in the UK I can't find lists with
unique identifiers. Another question, is the Isle of Man also part of the UK competition?
I think it would be good to have an online meeting with
Skype or something to talk about the things that are needed. I will not be in Hong Kong, and I am available on most of the coming days. I think it is urgent to speak with each other.
Romaine
I would prefer where possible to see a single campaign per country. The identifiers can be made unique by prefixing with the list instead. So it could be eg. “identifier Cadw-11210” instead of “identifier 11210 on Cadw upload campaign” There could be four campaigns, with all of them placing the same template (differenciating with a parameter, that'd still be much better than four different templates), but someone with photos from different lists would need to exit one campaign to change into another, instead of being able to upload them all from the same screen, which is unintuitive (plus a complexity when giving out instructions).
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