Well England, Scotland, and Wales are all countries within the United Kingdom (also a country). It's a bit complicated.

Four campaigns is the way to go as the IDs are different for each country.


Richard


On 8 August 2013 17:16, Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with both of you - it would be nice to have one campaign per
country, but technical restrictions limit us to at least one campaign
per list-holder, where the list-holder is the one issuing the unique
id.

2013/8/8, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki@yahoo.com>:
> Hello Platonides,
>
> I follow the system that Maarten started in the previous years: if there are
> different organisations, different campaigns are used. The UK is similar to
> Belgium. Belgium has three independent organisations, one for each of the
> regions, that are responsible for the monument lists. For each
> region/organisation we have a upload campaign. This is not without reason.
> If users follow the pre-filled links to the upload campaigns it will not be
> a problem, but if users visit a national campaign via other ways it is too
> difficult for them to select the right region (certainly not unintuitive but
> unnecessary complexity). The way how it in Belgium is set up is successful
> for two years already. Also we would like to be able to create easy links to
> the individual websites of the regional organisations.
>
> Already the UK website has to link to 4 groups of lists and four
> organisations, it is not strange to have four upload campaigns as well. In
> Belgium people appear to be smart enough to find the right one, I really
> trust the UK people are smart enough too. This is not complexity, this is
> easy.
>
> Besides some details the campaigns for the UK just came ready for testing,
> only minor changes are needed.
>
> Romaine
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 8/8/13, Platonides <platonides@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Help needed please to set up
> UploadCampaigns in the UK
>  To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition"
> <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
>  Cc: "Romaine Wiki" <romaine_wiki@yahoo.com>, "WLM 2013 UK mailing list"
> <wlm2013-l@wikimedia.org.uk>
>  Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013, 3:44 PM
>
>  On 07/08/13 18:15, Romaine Wiki
>  wrote:
>  > PS:
>  > I read on your website that there are four
>  organisations that each have their own lists. I think this
>  will result in creating four campaigns instead of one.
>  >
>  > Scotland seems to have monument IDs:
>  >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_A_listed_buildings_in_Aberdeen
>  >
>  > For the other areas in the UK I can't find lists with
>  unique identifiers. Another question, is the Isle of Man
>  also part of the UK competition?
>  >
>  > I think it would be good to have an online meeting with
>  Skype or something to talk about the things that are needed.
>  I will not be in Hong Kong, and I am available on most of
>  the coming days. I think it is urgent to speak with each
>  other.
>  >
>  >
>  > Romaine
>
>  I would prefer where possible to see a single campaign per
>  country. The identifiers can be made unique by prefixing
>  with the list instead. So it could be eg. “identifier
>  Cadw-11210” instead of “identifier 11210 on Cadw upload
>  campaign”
>  There could be four campaigns, with all of them placing the
>  same template (differenciating with a parameter, that'd
>  still be much better than four different templates), but
>  someone with photos from different lists would need to exit
>  one campaign to change into another, instead of being able
>  to upload them all from the same screen, which is
>  unintuitive (plus a complexity when giving out
>  instructions).
>
>  Regards
>
>
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