Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Geocoordinates in upload form

-- Med vänliga hälsningar Jan Ainali Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com > Jan, I don't have a camera that does this, so I can't test it, but do I > understand from this that the EXIF info automatically gets stuffed into > a Template:Location (camera location) field as it stands now? Because that > way for the countries who have their act together with the GIS coordinates > (like the Netherlands, Ahem!) we should do nothing, and then for the > countries who are missing coordinates, we can have a bot move this info > into Template:Object location and dump it into a category "GIS coordinates > for XXX monuments under review" or some such thing > Jane > > > 2011/7/15 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se > >> Well, the EXIF coordinates I believe the bot put in a Template:Location >> (that's for camera location). The monuments themselves should be mapped >> towards Template:Object location. >> >> If we already have the locations for the monuments, then the user should >> only need to worry about what monument was photographed and we should work >> some magic in the background to poulate the object location template. >> >> -- >> Med vänliga hälsningar >> Jan Ainali >> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida >> >> >> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com >> >>> Awesome! Then the next step is trying to use them somehow, while keeping >>> in mind Tomasz' point, i.e. those coordinates could be far away. I really >>> don't like the idea of putting the burden of GIS coordinates on the >>> uploader, unless this EXIF feature is there already. I think the upload form >>> needs to recognize this and ask if those coordinates can be used for the >>> object or better for the camera, or something like that >>> >>> >>> 2011/7/15 Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se >>> >>>> AFAIK, if the the coordinates are stored in the EXIF-information of the >>>> file, there is a bot on Commons who takes care of covering it to the right >>>> template. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Med vänliga hälsningar >>>> Jan Ainali >>>> Ordförande, Wikimedia Sverige http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida >>>> >>>> 2011/7/15 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> 2011/7/15 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com: >>>>> > Hmm. That brings to mind the fact that modern camera's have a GIS >>>>> system >>>>> > built in -- does the upload form harvest this info?Technically >>>>> speaking, >>>>> > this is not the coordinates of the monument, but of the viewpoint of >>>>> the >>>>> > camera, which is often close enough! >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> But not always. You take sometimes a picture from a quite distance. >>>>> See for example: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Italy_Florence_St_Maria_del_Fiore_1.j... >>>>> >>>>> So, to make it proper - the uploader should insert both - the >>>>> possition of photographer and possion of the monument. >>>>> >>>>> I think the upload form could have some "advanced" options, which are >>>>> not obligatory, bu the uploader can fill them if he/she needs, and we >>>>> can encourage people to do this. The form can be very simple in its >>>>> basic form and have "more options" button just like reference tool in >>>>> Wikipedia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz >>>>> http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek >>>>> http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ >>>>> http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >