Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
You can help increase the participation of women in open technology and culture! Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/
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it's not on the programme it's invitation only https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora <valerie@adainitiative.org
wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
You can help increase the participation of women in open technology and culture! Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/
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This is a bit of a problem, as I see it. While it is invitation only (and at this point, there is no feedback about what percentage of the available seats are taken), the very limited advertising is not targeting people who are actually going to be at Wikimania. Now, it could be that all the seats are full, in which case no further advertising is needed. But attaching this to Wikimania and then not bothering to take advantage of the advertising power of Wikimania wiki at least does not seem terribly helpful.
There are several sessions that will occur that are strictly invitation-only, but those invitations are much more narrowly focused and the potential invitees have been communicated with much more directly. Perhaps Valerie or someone else directly involved in the seminar can advise if all the seats are full and, if not, how many more applicants they are seeking.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 19:53, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
it's not on the programme it's invitation only
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora < valerie@adainitiative.org> wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
You can help increase the participation of women in open technology and culture! Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/
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Hey folks,
We really appreciate everyone's concern and help with the Ally Skills Workshop! Some answers to questions or concerns on this thread:
1. We are working to get the workshop into the programme. 2. The workshop is on the Wikimania wiki here: https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ally_Skills_Workshop 3. The workshop is about half-full, and we would appreciate you inviting people to apply using the above link.
-VAL
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is a bit of a problem, as I see it. While it is invitation only (and at this point, there is no feedback about what percentage of the available seats are taken), the very limited advertising is not targeting people who are actually going to be at Wikimania. Now, it could be that all the seats are full, in which case no further advertising is needed. But attaching this to Wikimania and then not bothering to take advantage of the advertising power of Wikimania wiki at least does not seem terribly helpful.
There are several sessions that will occur that are strictly invitation-only, but those invitations are much more narrowly focused and the potential invitees have been communicated with much more directly. Perhaps Valerie or someone else directly involved in the seminar can advise if all the seats are full and, if not, how many more applicants they are seeking.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 19:53, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
it's not on the programme it's invitation only
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
You can help increase the participation of women in open technology and culture! Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/
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Thank you, Val. I don't know many people who are planning to attend Wikimania and who don't already have something scheduled at the same time (I will be in a different closed session at the same time), but I have reached out as best I can.
It occurs to me that, although the main thrust will be supporting women who edit, many of the same techniques that can be used to support women can be used to support *all* editors. While women on the internet are known to be more likely to be subjected to certain types of online harassment and trolling, I've seen similar behaviour directed to trans editors, gay editors, straight male editors too.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 22:23, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hey folks,
We really appreciate everyone's concern and help with the Ally Skills Workshop! Some answers to questions or concerns on this thread:
- We are working to get the workshop into the programme.
- The workshop is on the Wikimania wiki here:
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ally_Skills_Workshop 3. The workshop is about half-full, and we would appreciate you inviting people to apply using the above link.
-VAL
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is a bit of a problem, as I see it. While it is invitation only
(and
at this point, there is no feedback about what percentage of the
available
seats are taken), the very limited advertising is not targeting people
who
are actually going to be at Wikimania. Now, it could be that all the
seats
are full, in which case no further advertising is needed. But attaching this to Wikimania and then not bothering to take advantage of the advertising power of Wikimania wiki at least does not seem terribly
helpful.
There are several sessions that will occur that are strictly invitation-only, but those invitations are much more narrowly focused and the potential invitees have been communicated with much more directly. Perhaps Valerie or someone else directly involved in the seminar can
advise
if all the seats are full and, if not, how many more applicants they are seeking.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 19:53, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
it's not on the programme it's invitation only
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Chris Keating <
chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
You can help increase the participation of women in open technology
and
culture! Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/
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I'd just thought that I would note that WMF's Community Dept said recently that anti-harassment initatives will be a focus for them in their goals for this quarter.
Also, I would like to ask about the reach of this initiative. If the pilot is deemed a success, would it make sense to offer online workshops instead of, or in addition to, more expensive and logistically complicated in-person workshops? I do believe that there can be important benefits from in-person workshops, but with thousands of globally distributed Wikimedians the only practical ways to reach the majority of highly active Wikimedians is to offer online training, perhaps supplemented by in-person workshops that are led by Wikimedia affiliate staff or volunteers who receive the proposed train-the-trainer instruction. The train-the-trainer instruction could be offered online or at events like Wikimainia and the Wikimedia Conference.
Thanks,
Pine On Jul 6, 2015 10:36 PM, "Risker" risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Val. I don't know many people who are planning to attend Wikimania and who don't already have something scheduled at the same time (I will be in a different closed session at the same time), but I have reached out as best I can.
It occurs to me that, although the main thrust will be supporting women who edit, many of the same techniques that can be used to support women can be used to support *all* editors. While women on the internet are known to be more likely to be subjected to certain types of online harassment and trolling, I've seen similar behaviour directed to trans editors, gay editors, straight male editors too.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 22:23, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hey folks,
We really appreciate everyone's concern and help with the Ally Skills Workshop! Some answers to questions or concerns on this thread:
- We are working to get the workshop into the programme.
- The workshop is on the Wikimania wiki here:
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ally_Skills_Workshop 3. The workshop is about half-full, and we would appreciate you inviting people to apply using the above link.
-VAL
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is a bit of a problem, as I see it. While it is invitation only
(and
at this point, there is no feedback about what percentage of the
available
seats are taken), the very limited advertising is not targeting people
who
are actually going to be at Wikimania. Now, it could be that all the
seats
are full, in which case no further advertising is needed. But attaching this to Wikimania and then not bothering to take advantage of the advertising power of Wikimania wiki at least does not seem terribly
helpful.
There are several sessions that will occur that are strictly invitation-only, but those invitations are much more narrowly focused
and
the potential invitees have been communicated with much more directly. Perhaps Valerie or someone else directly involved in the seminar can
advise
if all the seats are full and, if not, how many more applicants they are seeking.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 19:53, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
it's not on the programme it's invitation only
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Chris Keating <
chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to
many
of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person
to
attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up!
You
can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
You can help increase the participation of women in open technology
and
culture! Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/
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The workshop is fundamentally unsuited to online participation, which is unfortunate because I hate traveling. I would be very excited if someone else figured out how to make the workshop work in an online format, but I haven't in the 4+ years I've been teaching it. The materials are CC BY-SA, so there's no barrier to adapting them. Until then, the most scalable approach is to train a bunch of people distributed around the world to teach the workshop.
-VAL
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I'd just thought that I would note that WMF's Community Dept said recently that anti-harassment initatives will be a focus for them in their goals for this quarter.
Also, I would like to ask about the reach of this initiative. If the pilot is deemed a success, would it make sense to offer online workshops instead of, or in addition to, more expensive and logistically complicated in-person workshops? I do believe that there can be important benefits from in-person workshops, but with thousands of globally distributed Wikimedians the only practical ways to reach the majority of highly active Wikimedians is to offer online training, perhaps supplemented by in-person workshops that are led by Wikimedia affiliate staff or volunteers who receive the proposed train-the-trainer instruction. The train-the-trainer instruction could be offered online or at events like Wikimainia and the Wikimedia Conference.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 6, 2015 10:36 PM, "Risker" risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Val. I don't know many people who are planning to attend Wikimania and who don't already have something scheduled at the same time (I will be in a different closed session at the same time), but I have reached out as best I can.
It occurs to me that, although the main thrust will be supporting women who edit, many of the same techniques that can be used to support women can be used to support *all* editors. While women on the internet are known to be more likely to be subjected to certain types of online harassment and trolling, I've seen similar behaviour directed to trans editors, gay editors, straight male editors too.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 22:23, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hey folks,
We really appreciate everyone's concern and help with the Ally Skills Workshop! Some answers to questions or concerns on this thread:
- We are working to get the workshop into the programme.
- The workshop is on the Wikimania wiki here:
https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ally_Skills_Workshop 3. The workshop is about half-full, and we would appreciate you inviting people to apply using the above link.
-VAL
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is a bit of a problem, as I see it. While it is invitation only (and at this point, there is no feedback about what percentage of the available seats are taken), the very limited advertising is not targeting people who are actually going to be at Wikimania. Now, it could be that all the seats are full, in which case no further advertising is needed. But attaching this to Wikimania and then not bothering to take advantage of the advertising power of Wikimania wiki at least does not seem terribly helpful.
There are several sessions that will occur that are strictly invitation-only, but those invitations are much more narrowly focused and the potential invitees have been communicated with much more directly. Perhaps Valerie or someone else directly involved in the seminar can advise if all the seats are full and, if not, how many more applicants they are seeking.
Risker/Anne
On 6 July 2015 at 19:53, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
it's not on the programme it's invitation only
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Valerie,
Is the workshop listed on the Wikimania programme? I can't see it. https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
(Great that this is happening, though!)
Chris
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote: > > Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members, > > I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on > this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills > Workshop > at Wikimania in July: > > > > https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-... > > The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to > support > women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on > techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, > including how to use existing policies and suggestions for > advocating > for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of > trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them. > > If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a > train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to > many > of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them > educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women > editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia. > > If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person > to > attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! > You > can also retweet the announcement here: > > https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344 > > Thanks, > > -VAL > > -- > Valerie Aurora > Interim Executive Director > > You can help increase the participation of women in open technology > and > culture! > Donate today at http://adainitiative.org/donate/ > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, > please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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Hi folks,
Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rules so that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard.
Another question is whether people can find out who else will be attending the workshop. I can't release the attendee list, but I can tell you that I have a 5-person review committee looking at each application and checking people's wiki contributions and online output. We reject anyone who seems unlikely to contribute positively to the workshop, whether that's because they don't have much experience in contributing to Wikimedia projects, they don't have the background to contribute to the workshop right away, or they seem like trolls. I have kicked people out of the workshop in the past and will do it at this workshop if necessary (but I'm pretty sure it won't be).
All that being said, the workshop already has enough people registered that if we closed applications today we'd have a fantastic workshop. Applications are still open for now but we will probably close them soon.
And I'm working on getting it on the official programme! Sorry for the trouble there.
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
Thanks everyone for their helpful comments and suggestions and see y'all in Mexico City!
-VAL
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Valerie Aurora valerie@adainitiative.org wrote:
Hi long-suffering Gender Gap list members,
I have good news! Thanks to the hard work of many of the people on this list, the WMF funded a grant to run a pilot Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania in July:
https://adainitiative.org/2015/06/apply-now-for-the-ally-skills-workshop-at-...
The Ally Skills Workshop teaches men simple, everyday ways to support women in their communities. This workshop will be laser-focused on techniques that work specifically in Wikipedia and related projects, including how to use existing policies and suggestions for advocating for new policies. It will also teach people about the mindset of trolls and what strategies work best for foiling them.
If it goes well, we'll apply for another WMF grant to run a train-the-trainers, with the end goal of teaching the workshop to many of the Wikipedia admins around the world. The goal is to get them educated and wised up to the sexist tactics often used against women editors, women's bios, and women's causes on Wikipedia.
If you are going, or if you know someone who would be a good person to attend this workshop, please sign up or encourage them to sign up! You can also retweet the announcement here:
https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/613803456692793344
Thanks,
-VAL
-- Valerie Aurora Interim Executive Director
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On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote:
Hi folks,
Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rules so that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard.
Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up online?
On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote:
Hi folks,
Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rules so that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard.
Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up online?
I hope not, or it will really, really change the willingness of participants to share their experiences and stories. In some cases it would have the effect of revictimizing the victims.
I can sympathize with your wish to see how it goes, Carol - I'll be in a required session a few doors down the hall while this takes place, although I'd really like to participate. But from the bigger picture, I think it's better that the session not be publicly accessible.
Risker/Anne
I definitely understand Risker's point, but despite my jokes about metaphorical "gang bang at Wikipedia", this really isn't a discussion of personal violence and assault, but of organized political intimidation. And we should feel free to speak out about that and make sure lots of people hear us. Otherwise we are just victimizing ourselves by embracing our oppression instead of fighting it.
Having attended some such events at Wikimania 2012, and seen the issues discussed at least briefly in one or more taped presentations, off hand I don't remember any guys being really obnoxious. (I do remember the story of the NYC event where guys WERE being obnoxious, however.) Hopefully, they are NOT becoming more organized like the guys who disrupted the Gender Gap Task Force.
Probably the best thing is to discuss whether to tap and let participants decide and if only a few object they can stay out of camera range and ask any comments they make not be taped. That is done at a lot of different events.
On 7/13/2015 10:46 PM, Risker wrote:
On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote: Hi folks, Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rules so that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard. Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up online?I hope not, or it will really, really change the willingness of participants to share their experiences and stories. In some cases it would have the effect of revictimizing the victims.
I can sympathize with your wish to see how it goes, Carol - I'll be in a required session a few doors down the hall while this takes place, although I'd really like to participate. But from the bigger picture, I think it's better that the session not be publicly accessible.
Risker/Anne
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Hi Carole,
But if you ask people to lurk out of camera shot and not ask questions unless they are willing to have them taped aren't you making them second class participants at that event?
Better in my view to create an edited taped version, and if someone isn't prepared to be in the final cut try to resolve their objections. It may be they are OK if a narrator says their words and their face is pixellated, or perhaps they need their bit replaced by a shot of someone reacting to their words and the narrator saying "a participant gave a personal example of harassment"
On 14 July 2015 at 13:40, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
I definitely understand Risker's point, but despite my jokes about metaphorical "gang bang at Wikipedia", this really isn't a discussion of personal violence and assault, but of organized political intimidation. And we should feel free to speak out about that and make sure lots of people hear us. Otherwise we are just victimizing ourselves by embracing our oppression instead of fighting it.
Having attended some such events at Wikimania 2012, and seen the issues discussed at least briefly in one or more taped presentations, off hand I don't remember any guys being really obnoxious. (I do remember the story of the NYC event where guys WERE being obnoxious, however.) Hopefully, they are NOT becoming more organized like the guys who disrupted the Gender Gap Task Force.
Probably the best thing is to discuss whether to tap and let participants decide and if only a few object they can stay out of camera range and ask any comments they make not be taped. That is done at a lot of different events.
On 7/13/2015 10:46 PM, Risker wrote:
On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote: Hi folks, Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rulesso that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard.
Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up online?I hope not, or it will really, really change the willingness of participants to share their experiences and stories. In some cases it would have the effect of revictimizing the victims.
I can sympathize with your wish to see how it goes, Carol - I'll be in a required session a few doors down the hall while this takes place, although I'd really like to participate. But from the bigger picture, I think it's better that the session not be publicly accessible.
Risker/Anne
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Another good option. People who want to speak out should not be silenced by those who say they don't want to be taped. (And heavens forbid it be the guys who want to harass us or their female enablers.)
On 7/14/2015 10:02 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Hi Carole,
But if you ask people to lurk out of camera shot and not ask questions unless they are willing to have them taped aren't you making them second class participants at that event?
Better in my view to create an edited taped version, and if someone isn't prepared to be in the final cut try to resolve their objections. It may be they are OK if a narrator says their words and their face is pixellated, or perhaps they need their bit replaced by a shot of someone reacting to their words and the narrator saying "a participant gave a personal example of harassment"
On 14 July 2015 at 13:40, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
I definitely understand Risker's point, but despite my jokes about metaphorical "gang bang at Wikipedia", this really isn't a discussion of personal violence and assault, but of organized political intimidation. And we should feel free to speak out about that and make sure lots of people hear us. Otherwise we are just victimizing ourselves by embracing our oppression instead of fighting it. Having attended some such events at Wikimania 2012, and seen the issues discussed at least briefly in one or more taped presentations, off hand I don't remember any guys being really obnoxious. (I do remember the story of the NYC event where guys WERE being obnoxious, however.) Hopefully, they are NOT becoming more organized like the guys who disrupted the Gender Gap Task Force. Probably the best thing is to discuss whether to tap and let participants decide and if only a few object they can stay out of camera range and ask any comments they make not be taped. That is done at a lot of different events. On 7/13/2015 10:46 PM, Risker wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net> <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net>>> wrote: On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote: Hi folks, Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rules so that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard. Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up online? I hope not, or it will really, really change the willingness of participants to share their experiences and stories. In some cases it would have the effect of revictimizing the victims. I can sympathize with your wish to see how it goes, Carol - I'll be in a required session a few doors down the hall while this takes place, although I'd really like to participate. But from the bigger picture, I think it's better that the session not be publicly accessible. Risker/Anne _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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The workshop will absolutely not be recorded. If we do record a future workshop, it will be done the same way as the video currently on our web site: I will repeat everyone's comments myself and the video editor will edit out all the participant comments.
-VAL
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
Another good option. People who want to speak out should not be silenced by those who say they don't want to be taped. (And heavens forbid it be the guys who want to harass us or their female enablers.)
On 7/14/2015 10:02 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Hi Carole,
But if you ask people to lurk out of camera shot and not ask questions unless they are willing to have them taped aren't you making them second class participants at that event?
Better in my view to create an edited taped version, and if someone isn't prepared to be in the final cut try to resolve their objections. It may be they are OK if a narrator says their words and their face is pixellated, or perhaps they need their bit replaced by a shot of someone reacting to their words and the narrator saying "a participant gave a personal example of harassment"
On 14 July 2015 at 13:40, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
I definitely understand Risker's point, but despite my jokes about metaphorical "gang bang at Wikipedia", this really isn't a discussion of personal violence and assault, but of organized political intimidation. And we should feel free to speak out about that and make sure lots of people hear us. Otherwise we are just victimizing ourselves by embracing our oppression instead of fighting it. Having attended some such events at Wikimania 2012, and seen the issues discussed at least briefly in one or more taped presentations, off hand I don't remember any guys being really obnoxious. (I do remember the story of the NYC event where guys WERE being obnoxious, however.) Hopefully, they are NOT becoming more organized like the guys who disrupted the Gender Gap Task Force. Probably the best thing is to discuss whether to tap and let participants decide and if only a few object they can stay out of camera range and ask any comments they make not be taped. That is done at a lot of different events. On 7/13/2015 10:46 PM, Risker wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net> <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net>>> wrote: On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote: Hi folks, Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills Workshop will be an unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, whether men will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, etc. We spend the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up discussion rules so that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is real-world practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give women an equal chance to be respectfully heard. Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up online? I hope not, or it will really, really change the willingness of participants to share their experiences and stories. In some cases it would have the effect of revictimizing the victims. I can sympathize with your wish to see how it goes, Carol - I'll be in a required session a few doors down the hall while this takes place, although I'd really like to participate. But from the bigger picture, I think it's better that the session not be publicly accessible. Risker/Anne _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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