On 7/14/2015 8:30 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
Don't you think it's bizarre that ArbCom is
punishing Lightbreather for
discussing the identity of the guy who posted porn images, claiming they
depicted Lightbreather? He posted those images off-wiki, and she
discussed it off-wiki.
**I guess that's an object lesson in why we have to read these
Arbitrations more carefully. I get the impression some of the charges
are NOT bogus; the question is, how many guys would get away with all
the same withOUT being warned or sanctioned. Lots, in my experience.
But a few incidents definitely looked like mentoring warranted.
Also following twitter I see Mark Bernstein writes: "New Wikipedia
Arbcom proposed decision officially recommends harassed women "lower
their profile" until harassment stops."
Of course I did that by largely stopping editing articles through much
of 2014 (since I was being followed and harassed and admins just poo
poo'd my complaints). But critics screamed:"Carol doesn't contribute
anything so she doesn't have the same rights to opine on anything as
those of us who contribute a lot and thus have a right to insult people
all we want." And ArbCom fell for that one...
In my opinion, she had every moral right to.
ArbCom's fixation on "outing" reminds me of all the Redditors who wailed
when someone put a name to "Violentacrez".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks8xuYRPnWM
Seriously, does anyone think ArbCom's gallant protection of the dude,
while site-banning the woman at whose expense he was having his fun on
those porn sites, will help women's participation?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Carol Moore dc
<carolmooredc(a)verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net>> wrote:
The good news is this time they actually have a long list of
problematic issues and are not just getting rid of editors for
trumped up ones like that did with Neotarf and I, i.e., just listing
of 5 or 6 examples of being snotty to (powerful and connected)
editors who were obnoxiously harassing either ourselves or the GGTF
group...
On 7/13/2015 10:50 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
The proposed decision in the Lightbreather case was posted
yesterday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbrea…
It comments extensively on harassment.
The proposed decision has already been controversially discussed on
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/eastgate/status/620337415669026816
A.
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