This project sounds great!
However, the phrase 'Celebrate Women' doesn't have
any meaning, and could be anything -
it could be a Solstice-based party in
somebody's cornfield or an online
Consider how effective a campaign called
'Celebrate Men' would be.
We're trying to appeal to people with expertise and
experience, who need something meaningful
to get their attention.
- Susan Spencer Conklin
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> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:34:22 -0700 (MST)
> From: "Fred Bauder" <fredbaud(a)fairpoint.net>
> Subject: [Gendergap] Celebrate Women
> To: gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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> Let's do a Wikipedia wide project, call it "Celebrate Women". There might
> be banners featuring either articles about women, or women editors.
> Featured articles during this period, of perhaps a year, would be
> biographies of women or even women played significant roles in.
> Lists of articles which are needed or which need improvement could be
> drawn up and, of course, projects started.
> By the way, work on the article "role model" is progressing and will
> eventually include a section on positive, as opposed to celebrity, role
> models, both male and female. I think there are quite a few resources,
> once you start looking for them in terms of lists of admired women, or
This is why i love Wikipedia. The article below I KNOW is a direct result of
the recent publicity on our gender gap. Even more proof of why solving this
at Wikipedia will have a ripple affect in the real world. Allow me to be
cheesy, but this is why i love the project, because i really do feel it
makes the world a better place. Interesting points of view in the article.
A bunch of us got together tonight in NY. Unfortunately, we were not able to
connect to the other participants who were going to join us via Skype. (it
was quite funny, we ended trying to work from a stairwell in a VERY old NY
building to try to access the ladies, lol, but had no luck overcoming our
technical difficulties. )
We had good brainstorming and came up with solid/practical ideas. We decided
it best to concentrate our initial efforts to one initiative per age group.
I've written up the notes in meta. You are welcome to see them, just be
aware, that we just finished the meeting, and the other team members have
not had time to edit the page. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NY_Wiki_Chics
If you have any ideas, suggestions, please let us know - offlist of course.
However, can definitely say that we had REALLY good energy and i think the
beginning of something very cool :)
Is it appropriate for the Foundation to refer to women as "chicks" and
use the title "fellow" for staff positions? I'm not adamantly opposed
to either, but I am convinced we can do much better.
On the issue of noticeboards, does anyone know of any actual reasons
that any noticeboard has not tended to help solve the problem it was
intended to address? All of them seem to have been relatively
successful to me, and certainly have been lesser drama magnets than
the general WP:ANI noticeboard which they tend to relieve by moving
quality responsibilities from the administrators to the wider
It seems to me that the English Wikipedia would be far better with a
systematic bias noticeboard to cover both gender and geographic
On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Laura Hale wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2008(a)reagle.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2011, Laura Hale wrote:
> > RecentChangesCamp 2011 Boston is coming up in March.
> I'm looking forward to the Boston RCC and would like to hear discussion about the gender gap. There is a proposed session about gender and motivation . (Though I'm not keen on the perspective of this as being about motivation.)
> (I'd also be happy to present preliminary thoughts on my current work , but I would prefer to mostly listen, and I know that presentations aren't very unconference-ish.)
> RecentChangesCamp has had people do presentations before. wikiHow has done a few on how they've done community development in 2009 in Portland and 2008 in Palo Alto. I believe there was a formal presentation about copyright at Palo Alto in 2008. We had a Power Point presentation about Lonely Planet wiki stuff at 2011 in Canberra that was basically a repeat of something presented at wikiSym. Totally different audience so it was new for us. :) If you have a formal presentation, bring it along. I don't know if they will have screen projectors but it can always be shown on your laptop if you want to show it to people.
Yes, I have seen many "presentation style" sessions at different RCCs, and did one myself in Montreal last year. I'd advise leaving room for discussion, but I suspect people would be very interested in hearing about your research, Joseph. I know I would -- wish I could be in Boston!
Rambling a bit and hello.
RecentChangesCamp 2011 Boston is coming up in March. Details can be found
at http://recentchangescamp.org/wiki/Boston . RecentChangesCamp is a wiki
related conference that utilizes open space. That means the attendees
basically set the agenda when they arrive. In the past, women have been
heavily involved with organizing the event. At the most recent
RecentChangesCamp in Canberra, we had probably 25% of our participants as
women. That's a bit above the norm for Wikimedia related projects, so we
were very happy. Wikimedia Foundation has been tremendously supportive of
this conference in the past, by either providing funding or sending staff.
This is a great chance for people to get together and talk in small groups
about issues related to women's participation on wikis, how to increase
participation, talk about research being done on wikis as it pertains to
women's needs, to start planning for future events related to women and
wikis, and to network.
As some one involved with RecentChangesCamp in the past, I've noticed a fair
amount of leadership amongst women in organizing the conference. This type
of involvement in the background, as an organizer, probably isn't
acknowledged or given as much as importance as editing but it can play a big
role in shaping things. Discussing that at RecentChangesCamp, seeing how
that plays out, would also be very interesting.
If anyone new to the gender gap list is unfamiliar with IRC, let me know and
I will try to help you out.
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From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:54 AM
Subject: Reminder: IRC office hours with Sue Gardner today
Sorry for the late reminder, but just wanted to let everyone know that the
IRC office hours with Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner
will be happening as planned at 00:00 UTC on the 25th (or the
afternoon/evening of the 24th, if you're in our end of the world.)
The agenda is open, and as usual times and conversion links can be found on
Meta at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation
First of all, thank you Pharos for helping us NY chics connect! Second, if
there are any NY chics we missed, a few of us are having a real/virtual
meeting tomorrow at 7:00pm. Two of us are meeting in real person (Resistor,
Brooklyn), and two of us are meeting via skype. We will be brainstorming on
things we can do locally and essentially create a plan of action:) We will
share with guys what we come up with.
Super excited!! WOO HOO! Wish us luck!
For whom they do not know it, El País is one of the most important newspapers of Spain.
In its blog an interesting post has been published, brings over of the problem that occupies us. It's in spanish, of course .... but it's not difificult of translating to the english (if someone wants it, it is possible to do an attempt). You can read in http://blogs.elpais.com/mujeres/2011/02/los-hombres-son-de-wikipedia-y-las-…
Marcos (aka Marctaltor)
"The title is intentionally provocative, and echoes a line I recently
read in a satirical novel about the NYC literary scene in the '70s:
"Technique is racist." To be clear, I'm not accusing any particular
person or particular group of people of sexism, I'm saying that the
entity/system itself fosters sexism (gender bias, if you prefer)."