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Ryan Kaldari

11 May 2017 11 May '17

5:16 a.m.

Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl

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Lennart Guldbrandsson

11 May 11 May

7:32 a.m.

Interesting. Thanks! I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest> which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se Skriv som ett proffs<http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/> - min senaste bok Kommande böcker<http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | Tidigare böcker<http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg<http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b… @aliasHannibal<http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap<http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>da>. Det är vårt mål." Jimmy Wales ________________________________ Från: Gendergap <gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> Skickat: den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 Till: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Ämne: [Gendergap] the poem gap Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl

Ryan Kaldari

6:22 p.m.

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Interesting. Thanks! I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Success_is_Counted_Sweetes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se <http://www.elementx.se> *Skriv som ett proffs <http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/>* - min senaste bok Kommande böcker <http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | Tidigare böcker <http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg <http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62> @aliasHannibal <http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter "*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* <http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales ------------------------------ *Från:* Gendergap <gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> *Skickat:* den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 *Till:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects *Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

J Hayes

12 May 12 May

2:12 a.m.

yes, i have been writing poetry bios for a while (and there is a bias in the historical data) and transcribing on wikisource tends to be by book and not individual poem (that tends to be an older practice) the oclc metadata tends to be by book, so we may need some hand curation, since we have individual poems like a chapter, there is a page to link to. i have not done too many literature articles; they are harder to write, and require expertise; i kind of despaired meeting the Wadewitz standard maybe we should do an literature editathon? On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Interesting. Thanks! I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Success_is_Counted_Sweetes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se <http://www.elementx.se> *Skriv som ett proffs <http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/>* - min senaste bok Kommande böcker <http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | Tidigare böcker <http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg <http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62> @aliasHannibal <http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter "*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* <http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales ------------------------------ *Från:* Gendergap <gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> *Skickat:* den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 *Till:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects *Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Ryan Kaldari

2:23 a.m.

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes <slowking4(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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maybe we should do an literature editathon?

Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the Art+Feminism theme).

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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

Interesting. Thanks! I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Success_is_Counted_Sweetes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se <http://www.elementx.se> *Skriv som ett proffs <http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/>* - min senaste bok Kommande böcker <http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | Tidigare böcker <http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg <http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62> @aliasHannibal <http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter "*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* <http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales ------------------------------ *Från:* Gendergap <gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> *Skickat:* den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 *Till:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects *Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

J Hayes

2:39 a.m.

i would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanist but his plate is full maybe a small grant for a grad student of his choosing or roping in womeninred / women in green On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes <slowking4(a)gmail.com> wrote:

maybe we should do an literature editathon?

Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the Art+Feminism theme).

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

Interesting. Thanks! I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Success_is_Counted_Sweetes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se <http://www.elementx.se> *Skriv som ett proffs <http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/>* - min senaste bok Kommande böcker <http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | Tidigare böcker <http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg <http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62> @aliasHannibal <http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter "*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* <http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales ------------------------------ *Från:* Gendergap <gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> *Skickat:* den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 *Till:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects *Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Amanda Menking

2:42 a.m.

I'd be happy to work with English majors and MLIS students at the University of Washington. I'm a former English major and teacher myself. :) On May 11, 2017, at 7:39 PM, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com<mailto:slowking4@gmail.com>> wrote: i would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanist but his plate is full maybe a small grant for a grad student of his choosing or roping in womeninred / women in green On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org<mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org>> wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com<mailto:slowking4@gmail.com>> wrote: maybe we should do an literature editathon? Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the Art+Feminism theme). On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org<mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org>> wrote: You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got: Poems by women: 1542 Poems by men: 20072 Ratio: 1:13 Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162 Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992 Ratio: 1:6 Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work. On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com<mailto:l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com>> wrote: Interesting. Thanks! I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest> which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se Skriv som ett proffs<http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/> - min senaste bok Kommande böcker<http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> | Tidigare böcker<http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg<http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b… @aliasHannibal<http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap<http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>da>. Det är vårt mål." Jimmy Wales ________________________________ Från: Gendergap <gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>> för Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org<mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org>> Skickat: den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 Till: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Ämne: [Gendergap] the poem gap Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on. If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

J Hayes

2:55 a.m.

great i nominate you for team leader start an idea at idea lab https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab and go for a small grant of less than 2000 there may be a critical mass of supporters out there cheers On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Amanda Menking <amenking(a)uw.edu> wrote:

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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes <slowking4(a)gmail.com> wrote:

maybe we should do an literature editathon?

Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the Art+Feminism theme).

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got: Poems by women: 1542 Poems by men: 20072 Ratio: 1:13 Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162 Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992 Ratio: 1:6 Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work. On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Interesting. Thanks! > > > I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems > that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list > of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems > > The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Success_is_Counted_Sweetes > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has > its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This > poem was not listed on the Wikidata query > poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by > women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be. > > This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful > term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them. > > Best wishes, > > Lennart Guldbrandsson > > 070 - 207 80 05 > http://www.*elementx*.se <http://www.elementx.se> > *Skriv som ett proffs <http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/>* > - min senaste bok > > Kommande böcker <http://www.elementx.se/om-lennart/kommande-bocker/> > | Tidigare böcker <http://www.elementx.se/tidigare-bocker/> > Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg > <http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62> > > @aliasHannibal <http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter > > "*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri > tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* > <http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida>*. Det är vårt mål.*" > Jimmy Wales > ------------------------------ > *Från:* Gendergap <gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> för Ryan > Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> > *Skickat:* den 11 maj 2017 07:16:26 > *Till:* Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects > *Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap > > Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how > many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same > query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have > articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata > there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. > This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I > understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the > domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? > Anyway, just something to chew on. > > If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are: > > Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x > Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq > > Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: > http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak > Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: > http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, > please visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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3:05 a.m.

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i have not done too many literature articles; they are harder to write, and require expertise; i kind of despaired meeting the Wadewitz standard

I like that you format your posts like poetry … it’s like Don Marquis’s archy poems. Daniel Case

Marie Earley

11:12 a.m.

"An Obstacle" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman should definitely have an article. http://blog.thereader.org.uk/2015/06/08/featured-poem-an-obstacle-by-charlo… Marie ________________________________________ From: Gendergap [gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] on behalf of dancase(a)frontiernet.net [dancase(a)frontiernet.net] Sent: 12 May 2017 03:05 To: J Hayes; Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap

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i have not done too many literature articles; they are harder to write, and require expertise; i kind of despaired meeting the Wadewitz standard

I like that you format your posts like poetry … it’s like Don Marquis’s archy poems. Daniel Case

Peter Southwood

11:24 a.m.

Very topical, Just do it. Cheers, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Marie Earley Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 1:12 PM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap "An Obstacle" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman should definitely have an article. http://blog.thereader.org.uk/2015/06/08/featured-poem-an-obstacle-by-charlo… Marie ________________________________________ From: Gendergap [gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] on behalf of dancase(a)frontiernet.net [dancase(a)frontiernet.net] Sent: 12 May 2017 03:05 To: J Hayes; Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] the poem gap

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i have not done too many literature articles; they are harder to write, and require expertise; i kind of despaired meeting the Wadewitz standard

I like that you format your posts like poetry … it’s like Don Marquis’s archy poems. Daniel Case _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8013 / Virus Database: 4776/14464 - Release Date: 05/12/17

Carol Moore dc

6:18 p.m.

Given Mother's Day coming up, note that Julia Ward Howe's "Mother's Day Proclamation" poem does have an article. So there is some good news! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day_Proclamation

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