or roping in womeninred / women in greenfor a grad student of his choosingmaybe a small granti would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanistbut his plate is full
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe we should do an literature editathon?
Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the Art+Feminism theme).
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work.Ratio: 1:6Poems by men: 20072You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got:Poems by women: 1542
Ratio: 1:13
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
______________________________Interesting. Thanks!
I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Success_is_Counted_Sweetes which has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query
poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be.
This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them.
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Ämne: [Gendergap] the poem gapPoems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynqJust out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on.
If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are:
Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl
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