On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari
<rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
You're right Lennart! It looks like I was
limiting the query to only
poems which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got:
Poems by women: 1542
Poems by men: 20072
Ratio: 1:13
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992
Ratio: 1:6
Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room
for improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <
l_guldbrandsson(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting. Thanks!
>
>
> I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems
> that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list
> of Emily Dickinson poems:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems
>
> The first poem in her template is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Success_is_Counted_Sweetes
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has
> its own Wikidata entry:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This
> poem was not listed on the Wikidata query
> poems by women:
http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by
> women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be.
>
> This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful
> term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart Guldbrandsson
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> Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how
> many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same
> query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have
> articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata
> there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia.
> This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I
> understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the
> domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality?
> Anyway, just something to chew on.
>
> If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are:
>
> Poems by women:
http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x
> Poems by men:
http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq
>
> Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia:
>
http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak
> Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia:
>
http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl
>
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