You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems
which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got:
Poems by women: 1542
Poems by men: 20072
Ratio: 1:13
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992
Ratio: 1:6
Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for
improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <
l_guldbrandsson(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. Thanks!
I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that
are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of
Emily Dickinson poems:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems
The first poem in her template is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Success_is_Counted_Sweetes
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest>which has its
own Wikidata entry:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was
not listed on the Wikidata query
poems by women:
http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by
women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be.
This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term).
Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them.
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*Ämne:* [Gendergap] the poem gap
Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many
poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query
for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have
articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata
there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia.
This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I
understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the
domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality?
Anyway, just something to chew on.
If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are:
Poems by women:
http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x
Poems by men:
http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia:
http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia:
http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl
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