I sorry you find the concerns other people have to be "empty" and "silly". Perhaps in the future you could ignore the threads on smaller issues without comment. It would really help keep things more congenial.
Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 10/14/09, Michael Jörgens joergens.mic@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Michael Jörgens joergens.mic@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without text To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 12:15 PM Is there a need for this ''empty discussion'' about empty pages here, The main point ist to find an for all acceptable way of working together with Thomas. In a way that Thomas is satisfied and feels comfortable, taking the problems he see's into concern and the problems some projects have. And it should be a compromise that all can accept, without feeling overruled by others. With this in the background the other discussion is simply silly. Some are talking about some pages, which in total are below 1%, there are bigger issues to solve.
sincerly joergens.mi
2009/10/14 Birgitte SB birgitte_sb@yahoo.com
I disagree in general with the idea that everyone must conform. There is room for the communities to develop their own solutions. Hopefully when one community proves that some solution has good results others will learn from their experience and adopt it. But there needs to be room for experimentation.
In this specific case, it seems to me this is more of legacy issue on de.WS rather than a deliberate choice. If they (as well as every other subdomains) conform to the standards the majority of Wikisources use then the comparative numbers between Wikisources will be more accurate. I don't see a strong reason for de.WS deciding to not conform here. But it is a bunch of tedious work and it should be thoroughly discussed. It would be very nice if de.WS took the time to consider the issue and let us know what the consensus turns out to be.
However we can always make a footnote when people choose to count things differently and estimate with data crunching. (i.e. Of 1000 validated pages on the top three non-de.WS subdomains the average number of empty pages is X (A%), therefore an estimate of de.WS validated non-empty page is the given total minus the A% of the given total) This is not an unsolvable issue and I am sure sooner of later some subdomain will discover a good reason to do something differently.
Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 10/14/09, Syagrius syagrius@gmx.fr wrote:
From: Syagrius syagrius@gmx.fr
Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without text
To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free
library" wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:47 AM
#yiv579852079 html, #yiv579852079
{}#yiv579852079 html
{width:100%;height:100%;margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv579852079
{font-size:100.01%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva,
Arial,
Helvetica,
sans-serif;background-color:transparent;background-image:none;margin:0px;padding:5px;}#yiv579852079
p {margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv579852079
{font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial,
Helvetica,
sans-serif;background-color:#FFFFFF;}#yiv579852079 p
{margin:0;padding:0;}#yiv579852079 blockquote
{padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;}#yiv579852079
blockquote.quote {border-left:1px solid
#CCC;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;} If the
Wikisources have adopted
some common rules, every sublanguage
should follow it. On
the other hand, I don't understand why you
don't
want to transform these empty pages, since en.ws
and fr.ws
already did it and a bot could do it very easily.
There
would be absolutely no loss of quality or
credibility...
Syagrius
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VandenbergEnvoyés : 14.10.09 02:03À :
discussion list for Wikisource, the free
libraryObjet : Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without
text On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:12
AM, Cecil
wrote:
Syagrius, could you please explain why this would
be
"irrespectuous toward
other wikisources" when we mark them as part
of a
'finished' project?
It is not a part of the same work.
Advertisements are a _different_ work, and it has not
been
transcribed.
It should be marked as a incomplete.
Advertisements are also sources....
:-)
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