Hi everyone,
The Brand Project Team felt it was important to address the concerns and questions around Snøhetta and the English Wikipedia, and have now added an FAQ about it. [1] Please refer there for the full details about the block and what is being done. The project team is in the process of updating the project materials, including the FAQ, so feel free to add those pages to your watchlist to stay up to date on the latest information.
Best,
Samir
Samir Elsharbaty (he/him)
Community Brand and Marketing coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:43 AM Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
This does have feeling of a company creating a financial relationship with the Foundation as way to bypass or backdoor a community ban thats been reviewed already. Over the years I've worked with many users who been blocked and help them become productive contributors but before they start making recommendation or decisions about who we are there needs to be something done to get them back to good standing with the community first untiil thats taken place. It's like asking the fox to rebuild the hen house, I just dont see how I could support anything they recommend.
After the dollars, and t=volunteer time that has been pumped into the 2030 strategy shouldnt we already know who we are, as it is that should have been the key starting point for a strategy process. Its comprehensible not to have known or explored that before deciding where, how, why we will be doing anything for the next 10 years.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 03:20, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Particularly as they've demonstrated by their actions an unwillingness to work with Wikipedia properly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archiv...
- d.
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 04:34, Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net wrote:
I would agree with this in principle. From what I have seen so far, it
looks like either Snøhetta have not done their homework on how we
operate,
or they have the arrogance of PR agencies, don't care, and plan to spin their way through with smoke and mirrors, flashy pages with lots of buzz, little content and all the dialogue they can't avoid. Maybe I am wrong,
and
they have just been badly briefed. Who can tell from the outside? Block evasion does not bode well for their understanding of the community.
Cheers, Peter
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Hello,
First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed personally at you, Essie.
Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of resources (all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project is a good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of the Wikiverse, and there are a some problems with WMF rebranding itself as the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities and affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance problems, and occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't think that the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve Snøhetta given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've been unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past few months.
I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this program in its current form.
Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending associated with it pending a Meta RfC regarding the community's view on whether this project should continue. If the community wants a branding project to continue, I would let the community decide on the project's parameters and budget, and what if any consultant should be involved.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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