I left a message, please write you too so we can stop this (I listen only to channels that will say that I’m right lalalalaalalla… this seems the behavior of WMF): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_re...
Regards,
Ferdinando
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 PM , Andrew Lih wrote:
Folks, it's not clear this email thread is going to register at all as feedback for this process.
The only recognized feedback mechanisms according to the original mail are the following:
- Wikimedia Space group - https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network
Currently 13 members
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_re... No new conversations
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_re... A dialogue that has been started to discuss the problems of the KPIs and metrics.
I'd highly suggest if you want to make your feedback count, you go to these venues.
-Andrew
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:32 PM Ferdinando Traversaferdi.traversa@gmail.com wrote:
It’ll be a very very important RFC. More than elections, it’s about all global identity. CentralNotice is appropriate.
Ferdinando
Il giorno 7 set 2019, alle ore 22:06, David Gerarddgerard@gmail.com
ha scritto:
I concur, it sounds sensible.
(I'll note, I'm not actually against the name change proposal - but it's got to be presented to the community properly.)
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:50, Kiril Simeonovski kiril.simeonovski@gmail.comwrote:
HI David,
Yes, it stands to reason to announce on all wikis in a similar way as
the
announcements about board or steward elections.
Best, Kiril
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:46 PM David Gerarddgerard@gmail.comwrote:
On all wikis?
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Yaroslav Blanterymbalt@gmail.com
wrote:
Right.
I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate.
Cheers Yaroslav
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski< kiril.simeonovski@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all, > > It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about
this,
> so we can safely move forward with it and close this thread.
Otherwise, we
> will most likely keep up boggling our minds with the 20-per-cent
metric and
> endlessly discuss how unfortunate is this for the global community
when the
> only rational thing we can do is take action and save everyone's
time.
> > Do you have any concluding remarks or comments regarding the RfC? > > Best regards, > Kiril > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:57 PM Ferdinando Traversa< > ferdi.traversa@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I’m against and sincerly I don’t trust this datas (80% agrees? Are
you
> > kidding me? I’ve seen the meta discussion). I think a Meta CLEAR
VOTE as
> > suggested here is the best way. Imposing a change like this is a
wrong
> > decision. > > > > Regards. > > > > > Il giorno 6 set 2019, alle ore 05:49, Zack McCune< > zmccune@wikimedia.org> > > ha scritto: > > > > > > *Summary* - We want your help with a voluntary, OPT-IN design
process
> for > > > movement branding. Please join the in-depth discussion group, or
watch
> > for > > > updates on Meta-Wiki. > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > After 4 months of community consultation, spanning dozens of > affiliates, > > > several mailing lists, community conferences, and Meta-Wiki, I am > pleased > > > to share a summary of feedback on the proposed 2030 movement brand > > strategy > > > [1]. > > > > > > From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual
contributors
> and > > > 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback: > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > Reducing confusion > > > 2. > > > > > > Protecting reputation > > > 3. > > > > > > Supporting sister projects > > > 4. > > > > > > Addressing (legal, governmental) risks > > > 5. > > > > > > Supporting movement growth > > > 6. > > > > > > The process of change > > > > > > Please visit our feedback summary page to learn more [2]. You will
see
> > > examples of comments within each section, along with a rough
indication
> > of > > > how many of the comments that we received were related to each
theme.
> > > > > > The comments sometimes contradict one another, showing that across
our
> > wide > > > movement’s experience, different points of view are common (and a
sign
> of > > > health!). To visualize these tensions, we have created “polarity
maps”
> > > which are used to help visualize how different arguments coexist in > > tension > > > with each other. > > > > > > Ultimately, the comments provided from you all are very thoughtful
and
> > > useful guidance on what is needed to make our movement’s branding > > > successful. One can read the 6 themes above as “criteria” for
assessing
> > > branding systems. > > > > > > == Thanks == > > > > > > I would like to thank the organizers of Iberoconf, Wikipedia
Education
> > > Summit, and the Wikimedia Summit for inviting us to hold
discussions
> > during > > > their sessions. I would also like to thank my colleagues Elena
Lappen,
> > > Samir Elsharbaty, and Blanca Flores who conducted extensive parts
of
> this > > > consultation. To the hundreds of people, and dozens of affiliates > > > commenting, thank you for reviewing the proposal and offering your > > > perspectives and insights. > > > > > > > > > == Next steps and staying involved == > > > > > > There is considerable support for the brand proposal and general > appetite > > > to improve our movement’s branding system. Further, we believe that > > > critical feedback on the proposal offers direct guidance for
precisely
> > what > > > branding must do to be successful for our movement. We have shared > these > > > insights and our proposed continuance with the Board of Trustees,
who
> > > approved continuing these efforts. > > > > > > Acting on community insights, we will be collaborating on formal
brand
> > > naming, visual identity, and brand system design that will use > > “Wikipedia” > > > as the central reference point. The resulting system will be
OPT-IN for
> > > affiliates. > > > > > > This design process will be guided by a “brand network” – a group
of
> > > volunteers who would like to continue advising on brand during this > > > consultation. Dozens of people have already volunteered, and we
invite
> > you > > > to join the group. We will use a group on Wikimedia Space to host
this
> > > discussion and the group will be closed to allow candid
discussions and
> > > room for iterations. EVERYONE IS INVITED TO JOIN [3]. If you do not > want > > to > > > commit to the in-depth, longer term discussions that will be
happening
> > > within the brand network group, we will still be tracking comments
left
> > on > > > the project’s Meta-Wiki page [4]. Furthermore, all important ideas
and
> > > updates originating from the brand network discussion will be
shared
> > > publicly to mailing lists and Meta-Wiki. > > > > > > The development of this proposed identity system will take > approximately > > 6 > > > months. As stated, regular updates will be shared to mailing lists, > > > Wikimedia Space, and Meta-Wiki [4]. Please engage us where you are
most
> > > comfortable! Once complete, community groups will have the power to > > decide > > > if/when they opt in to using the new system. > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > Zack > > > > > > [1]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/02/26/leading-with-wikipedia-a-bra...
> > > > > > > > > [2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_researc...
> > > > > > > > > [3] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network and click
the
> gray > > > "Request" button. When your request is approved, you will be able
to
> see > > > and access the brand network discussion category on the Discuss
Space
> > main > > > page. > > > > > > [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_researc...
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