Folks, it's not clear this email thread is going to register at all as feedback for this process.
The only recognized feedback mechanisms according to the original mail are the following:
1. Wikimedia Space group - https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network Currently 13 members
2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_re... No new conversations
3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_re... A dialogue that has been started to discuss the problems of the KPIs and metrics.
I'd highly suggest if you want to make your feedback count, you go to these venues.
-Andrew
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:32 PM Ferdinando Traversa ferdi.traversa@gmail.com wrote:
It’ll be a very very important RFC. More than elections, it’s about all global identity. CentralNotice is appropriate.
Ferdinando
Il giorno 7 set 2019, alle ore 22:06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com
ha scritto:
I concur, it sounds sensible.
(I'll note, I'm not actually against the name change proposal - but it's got to be presented to the community properly.)
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:50, Kiril Simeonovski kiril.simeonovski@gmail.com wrote:
HI David,
Yes, it stands to reason to announce on all wikis in a similar way as
the
announcements about board or steward elections.
Best, Kiril
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:46 PM David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On all wikis?
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Yaroslav Blanter ymbalt@gmail.com
wrote:
Right.
I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate.
Cheers Yaroslav
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski < kiril.simeonovski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about
this,
so we can safely move forward with it and close this thread.
Otherwise, we
will most likely keep up boggling our minds with the 20-per-cent
metric and
endlessly discuss how unfortunate is this for the global community
when the
only rational thing we can do is take action and save everyone's
time.
Do you have any concluding remarks or comments regarding the RfC?
Best regards, Kiril
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:57 PM Ferdinando Traversa < ferdi.traversa@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m against and sincerly I don’t trust this datas (80% agrees? Are
you
> kidding me? I’ve seen the meta discussion). I think a Meta CLEAR
VOTE as
> suggested here is the best way. Imposing a change like this is a
wrong
> decision. > > Regards. > >> Il giorno 6 set 2019, alle ore 05:49, Zack McCune < zmccune@wikimedia.org> > ha scritto: >> >> *Summary* - We want your help with a voluntary, OPT-IN design
process
for >> movement branding. Please join the in-depth discussion group, or
watch
> for >> updates on Meta-Wiki. >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> After 4 months of community consultation, spanning dozens of affiliates, >> several mailing lists, community conferences, and Meta-Wiki, I am pleased >> to share a summary of feedback on the proposed 2030 movement brand > strategy >> [1]. >> >> From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual
contributors
and >> 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback: >> >> 1. >> >> Reducing confusion >> 2. >> >> Protecting reputation >> 3. >> >> Supporting sister projects >> 4. >> >> Addressing (legal, governmental) risks >> 5. >> >> Supporting movement growth >> 6. >> >> The process of change >> >> Please visit our feedback summary page to learn more [2]. You will
see
>> examples of comments within each section, along with a rough
indication
> of >> how many of the comments that we received were related to each
theme.
>> >> The comments sometimes contradict one another, showing that across
our
> wide >> movement’s experience, different points of view are common (and a
sign
of >> health!). To visualize these tensions, we have created “polarity
maps”
>> which are used to help visualize how different arguments coexist in > tension >> with each other. >> >> Ultimately, the comments provided from you all are very thoughtful
and
>> useful guidance on what is needed to make our movement’s branding >> successful. One can read the 6 themes above as “criteria” for
assessing
>> branding systems. >> >> == Thanks == >> >> I would like to thank the organizers of Iberoconf, Wikipedia
Education
>> Summit, and the Wikimedia Summit for inviting us to hold
discussions
> during >> their sessions. I would also like to thank my colleagues Elena
Lappen,
>> Samir Elsharbaty, and Blanca Flores who conducted extensive parts
of
this >> consultation. To the hundreds of people, and dozens of affiliates >> commenting, thank you for reviewing the proposal and offering your >> perspectives and insights. >> >> >> == Next steps and staying involved == >> >> There is considerable support for the brand proposal and general appetite >> to improve our movement’s branding system. Further, we believe that >> critical feedback on the proposal offers direct guidance for
precisely
> what >> branding must do to be successful for our movement. We have shared these >> insights and our proposed continuance with the Board of Trustees,
who
>> approved continuing these efforts. >> >> Acting on community insights, we will be collaborating on formal
brand
>> naming, visual identity, and brand system design that will use > “Wikipedia” >> as the central reference point. The resulting system will be
OPT-IN for
>> affiliates. >> >> This design process will be guided by a “brand network” – a group
of
>> volunteers who would like to continue advising on brand during this >> consultation. Dozens of people have already volunteered, and we
invite
> you >> to join the group. We will use a group on Wikimedia Space to host
this
>> discussion and the group will be closed to allow candid
discussions and
>> room for iterations. EVERYONE IS INVITED TO JOIN [3]. If you do not want > to >> commit to the in-depth, longer term discussions that will be
happening
>> within the brand network group, we will still be tracking comments
left
> on >> the project’s Meta-Wiki page [4]. Furthermore, all important ideas
and
>> updates originating from the brand network discussion will be
shared
>> publicly to mailing lists and Meta-Wiki. >> >> The development of this proposed identity system will take approximately > 6 >> months. As stated, regular updates will be shared to mailing lists, >> Wikimedia Space, and Meta-Wiki [4]. Please engage us where you are
most
>> comfortable! Once complete, community groups will have the power to > decide >> if/when they opt in to using the new system. >> >> Yours, >> >> Zack >> >> [1] >> >
https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/02/26/leading-with-wikipedia-a-bra...
>> >> >> [2] >> >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_researc...
>> >> >> [3] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network and click
the
gray >> "Request" button. When your request is approved, you will be able
to
see >> and access the brand network discussion category on the Discuss
Space
> main >> page. >> >> [4] >> >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_researc...
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