That's helpful.
Volunteers are repeatedly shut down asking questions on this list and on wiki project noticeboards, by being told they should ask questions on these more obscure and hard to find meta talk pages. So it's good to know that when we are redirected this way, it's fair to say that those meta pages are not the right places to expect answers either, just to have some third party summarize and presumably sanitize comments as part of some non-public and non-transparent process.
Thanks for the clarification.
Fae
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 10:48 Nicole Ebber, nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Dear Paulo and Ziko,
Thanks for your interest and your questions.
Regarding the second iteration of the recommendations: We posted them for your information, to provide insights into how different strands of input have been progressed so far. We are not in a structured open consultation phase at the moment, but comments are of course always welcome on the talk pages, will be monitored, summarized and fed back to the Working Groups.
Ziko, yes, as we wrote on the meta page, an extended report will be shared soon.
Regards, Nicole
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 23:40, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Nicole, Thank you for the explanation. Maybe some more context on Meta Wiki might make sense? I am looking forward to see the final results. Kind regards Ziko
Am Di., 1. Okt. 2019 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com>:
" A second iteration of draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the sprint for the communities’ information." - It's quite unclear what are we
supposed to
do with this, since those recommendations most probably became
outdated in
the course of the Tunis meetings in the days following their
publication.
Are we supposed to do anything at all with them?
Best, Paulo
Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 30/09/2019 à(s) 17:27:
Hi everyone,
We recently held the harmonization sprint in Tunis [1], where representatives from each working group met in person to continue
bringing
nine separate sets of draft recommendations into one set. The event
also
brought together staff members from the Wikimedia Foundation and
Wikimedia
Deutschland, the WMF Chair of the Board of Trustees, and members of
the
core team. A longer narrative report will be published in the coming
weeks;
in the meantime, see a short day-by-day report on Meta, photos on
commons
[2], and check out the hashtag #hs2030 on Twitter [3].
In the lead up to the meeting, the working groups were busy refining
their
draft recommendations based on feedback received at in person events
from
Wikimedians across the movement as well as on wiki, via email, and on social media since March of this year. They had also begun
identifying
overlaps in each other’s recommendations and content. A second
iteration
of
draft recommendations [4] was published on Meta just before the
sprint
for
the communities’ information.
At the sprint, we continued to group recommendations based on commonalities. From there, we looked at what kinds of structures
would
need
to be in place to deliver the Wikimedia 2030 vision. A first, rough grouping of recommendations came together at the sprint. But what
became
clear during the event was that before it’s possible to create a
coherent
and actionable set of recommendations, fundamental principles that
underpin
the path towards 2030 need to be formalized.
The core team is currently processing the discussion materials and outcomes. Analysis of the current draft recommendations will
continue so
as
to create one unified set. The timeline will shift and we are looking
into
options for another round of community input.
I would like to make clear that the reason we were not able to
achieve
our
initial goal in Tunis was due to a lack of clarity and guidance on
the
core
team’s part. Still, the time was not wasted and important, honest conversations were had. The working group members, as ever, devoted
an
enormous amount of energy and care in the lead up to and during the
event,
and demonstrated their deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities in our movement. We are extremely grateful for all
their
effort. In short, the harmonization sprint underlined the high level
of
work and dedication every single working group member has put into
getting
the movement strategy to its current point, and the passion to shape
the
future of the diverse and inclusive movement we envision.
We have valuable lessons to take from this event and incorporate
into the
overall process and the next steps. We will share these with you all
as
soon as possible. If you have questions in the meantime, please feel
free
to reach out to me.
Best regards, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_2030_Harmonization_Spr...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
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