Hoi,
It is all a matter of perception. I work at Wikidata particularly on
Africa. I notice how little data we have on Wikidata. Today for instance I
added ministers of health because we just did not have this. We do not have
the geographic data that is what we need if we only want to know where
someone was born/died.. I regularly add universities to Wikidata because we
do not have them.
You can say that everything is well in hand, we were there, and these nice
people are really active. Sure. Compare that with the American meet up
where it was professionals getting to grips with how to get the most out of
our projects.
We took away what enabled children to make use of Wikipedia, the question
is what did we do to compensate.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 19:19, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
What websites are you talking about, Gerard? I
couldn't get that part.
Africa is way more engaged and active that the impression that often passes
to the rest of the movement, and I believe that the WMF staff that went to
Wiki Indaba has noticed that (it was impossible not to notice it, IMO). I
was at Wiki Indaba, and my impression is that the WMF was well and properly
represented at the conference, that the money was well spent and that there
will be/ already are practical and noticeable improvements in the
engagement with the wiki communities in Africa on the part of the WMF after
that.
Best,
Paulo
Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> escreveu no dia sábado,
16/11/2019 à(s) 16:12:
Hoi,
What language does the staff, the departments speak.
What chance for the current bias to be sustained and for no real progress
where we do a mediocre job at best.. Did we EVER research what the effect
was of ending the free access to our articles when we ended our program.
Do
we know how to make a difference and are we
willing to let go of what
holds
us back?
Just compare the recent conventions and the money spend. Africa could be
so
much more active when our websites are as good
there as what we are
accustomed to. Yes, staff went to Africa and then what?
Thanks,
GerardM
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 16:04, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
wrote:
> If the changes get staff more directly and personally involved in
> communicating with the rest of the community it could be helpful to
both
> groups,
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Dariusz Jemielniak
> Sent: 16 November 2019 12:39
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community
> Engagement to leave the Foundation
>
> hi,
>
> speaking just in my personal opinion and capacity, without discussing
it
with
anyone else: only time will tell whether this structural change
works,
and jumping to conclusions is definitely
premature.
In principle, as a person specializing in management and organizational
change, I can tell that there is no one-size-fits-all solution. I can
definitely see a lot of possible benefits to the restructuring though,
and
we definitely DO want all WMF departments to be
in touch with the
communities. The proposed approach tries to address the siloses. Every
department will have good interface with the CE issues, and this is a
good
> thing. Whether it leads to better CE prioritization is unknown yet, but
> structurally it can definitely help.
>
> On a practical level, given the fact that our previous search for the
> C-level position for CE took more than half a year, AFAIR, in the short
> term the assumed approach allows us to leapfrog a lot of turmoil, which
> could be damaging to community engagement in this crucial moment (last
> stretch of our strategic exercise effort). In the long run - I am
certain
that the
WMF leadership does not believe in things written in stone.
I'd be really reluctant to assume the restructuring is good or bad for
the
community as it is, everything depends on how the
new structure is used
in
> practice.
>
> best,
>
> dj "pundit"
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:29 AM Paul J. Weiss <pjweiss(a)uw.edu<mailtomailto:
> pjweiss(a)uw.edu>> wrote:
> I find the disbanding of the Community Engagement department at WMF to
be
> quite concerning. I will go so far as to say
that I view it as a
mistake
that will
have negative impacts well into the future.
For one thing, the structure of an organization is in some sense a
statement of priorities. I believe this move does indeed say to
employees,
the community, allied organization, and the rest
of the world that the
WMF
is now placing less value on engaging the
community. Given that many in
the
community have been feeling this already, this is
not an opportune time
to
> make this transition, even if it were a good idea for other reasons.
>
> Another issue is the specific placement of individual teams. For
example,
> you say that returning the Trust &
Safety team to the Legal department
is
intuitive. It certainly is not to me, and that move in particular is
concerning. The team's homepage on Meta states that it "identifies,
builds
and – as appropriate – staffs processes which
keep our users safe;
design,
> develop, and execute on a strategy that integrates legal, product,
> research, and learning & evaluation to proactively mitigate risk as
well
as
manage the overall safety of our online and
offline communities when
incidents happen." The legal aspect is only one of many in the team's
purview, and hopefully not a large one.
In my experience, units within legal departments take a very legalistic
view of their work. As one example, many colleges and universities have
an
> office for students with disabilities. In the US, those that are in
legal
or policy
departments tend to focus very much on doing the minimum they
have to do under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), rather than
being student-centered. (This is the case here at the University of
Washington.) Compare this to the focus of units for women, students of
color, etc., often hierarchically under student services, who are much
more
proactive and supportive.
I definitely do not want Trust & Safety to narrow its focus to ensuring
enforcement & reducing liability. As you know, legal but negative
behavior
is a significant threat to the future of
Wikipedia and sister projects.
The
team needs to be organizationally placed to
maximize, not minimize, its
access to resources, the community, and other staff as well as its
impact.
Placing it in Legal could, for example, decrease
significantly contact
and
> trust from our community members whose experience with laws is that
they
> are used as weapons and tools to oppress
rather than engendering
fairness
> and cooperation.
>
> Please, please carefully consider the all ramifications of this
> reorganization before it is implemented.
>
> Thank you,
> Paul Weiss
> Libcub on en.wp
>
> --------- Original Message ---------
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Chief of Community
Engagement
to leave
the Foundation
From: 'Katherine Maher' <kmaher(a)wikimedia.org<mailtomailto:
kmaher(a)wikimedia.org
> >>
> Date: 11/15/19 3:36 pm
> To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org<mailtomailto:
> wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am writing to let you know that Val D’Costa, Chief Community
Engagement
> Officer, is leaving the Wikimedia
Foundation. I also want to share some
> changes we’re making around how the Foundation organizes staff in the
> Community Engagement department.
>
> Val joined us last January, bringing nearly three decades of experience
> launching and growing international initiatives in emerging markets.
With
> the Wikimedia 2030 movement strategy as a
guide, Val and her team
drafted
an
ambitious new vision for the work of Community Engagement—focused on
decentralization of power and resources, safe and welcoming spaces,
equitable collaboration, increased language and cultural fluency,
dedicated
programs for groups such as women and young
people, and expansive
partnerships in service of free knowledge.
With this vision in hand, Val and I both see this as the right juncture
for
> her to move on to her next professional challenge. While she will be
> leaving the position of Chief of Community Engagement, she will remain
on
> as a consultant to me for a brief period.
>
> I am deeply appreciative of Val’s time with us at the Foundation and
want
to thank
her for the contributions she has made to the Wikimedia
movement.
She has been a passionate and persuasive advocate
for our mission and
pushed us to expand our vision of what could be possible for our
movement.
> I wish her the absolute best in what she does next.
>
> *== What comes next for Community Engagement ==*
>
> I'll be direct -- we are making changes to the CE department structure.
>
> We will not be starting a search for a new Chief of Community
Engagement.
> Instead, over the course of the next few
weeks, the seven teams
currently
within
the Community Engagement (CE) department will be integrated into
the
Foundation’s other departments. By January, all
of the teams will have
joined their new departments, and “Community Engagement” will no longer
be
a standalone department.
The teams currently in CE will be integrated with other Foundation
departments aligned with executive leadership goals and based on their
scope and focus, as well as how they might grow in the future. Some of
these alignments are intuitive, such as Trust & Safety returning to the
Legal department; others might not be immediately apparent.
*== What does this mean for your work? ==*
Although we have a good sense of which teams will integrate with which
departments, we are still meeting with the individual teams to work on
the
specific details of the transition. Our focus is
on continuity for
existing
community programs and support for Foundation
staff in making this
change.
You may hear from staff seeking input on those
arrangements, and I want
to
thank you in advance for any feedback you may
have.
We expect to wrap up these conversations in early December, to begin
transitions in mid-December, and for the transitions to be completed by
the
beginning of January, at which point we’ll be
able to share an overview
of
the new arrangements in full.
The work of the Community Engagement teams will remain the same
throughout
> this period of transition. For example, if you need something from
Trust
&
Safety or Community Resources, they’ll continue
to be here to work with
you. If you have a project or program underway with a CE team or staff
member, that work will also continue. If you have any questions, please
feel free to reach out to Greg Varnum at gvarnum(a)wikimedia.org<mailtolto:
gvarnum(a)wikimedia.org> or leave
your question in Wikimedia Space [1] and we’ll make sure we find an
answer
to your question.
*== Why are we making this change? ==*
The Community Engagement department has grown and evolved since it was
created in 2015. We have brought in people with an increasingly diverse
set
of skills and backgrounds and introduced new
support for additional
languages, geographies, and areas of work, such as community health.
While this has helped the Foundation come a long way in addressing the
needs of the movement, it has also created complexity. The breadth of
activities and competencies now supported by the department is quite
large—today, we have people working on issues as diverse as GLAM
collection
management, participatory grantmaking, and
contributor safety—and
increasingly, across many geographies, cultures, and languages.
This has created challenges for how we effectively coordinate such a
range
> of specializations, how we assess their efficacy and impact against our
> mission. At the same time, as the Foundation has grown, we have
developed
capacities in other departments who will be good partners to those
serving
> our community mission.
>
> In making these changes, we see an opportunity to align the functions
of
the
Foundation with the future of the mission and movement, and better
serve long-time contributors and emerging communities alike. Over time,
we
anticipate these new arrangements will deepen the
understanding of
community efforts among all Foundation staff and programs, integrate
community perspective across program design and support, and open up
space
for bold and fresh thinking about how to move our
movement forward.
*== What about the future? ==*
Some people may be wondering, what does this mean for the proposed work
in
> the Annual or Medium Term plans, or the planned restructure of the
> Community Engagement department to a new regional approach?
>
> We remain fully committed to the work and goals of the Medium Term
Plan.
> For example, although Val was not able to
attend Indaba to celebrate
with
> the African community, our COO and Deputy
General Counsel, Janeen
Uzzell
and Tony
Sebro, both attended.
The planned restructure and expansion of CE was intended to help us
support
> the community in achieving these goals. This includes the MTP’s focus
on
> building a thriving movement, increasing
community health and
diversity,
and
growing among new languages, regions, and audiences. We set these
goals
as part of our interpretation of the Movement
Strategy, and they will
remain our focus for the medium term.
I still believe we need to make many of these changes, as well as be
prepared for further changes that may arise from the recommendations of
the
> Movement Strategy Working Groups. We see a future that could include
> improved regional support, and expanded programmatic support for
emerging
> communities, whether those are new
languages, geographies, or areas of
> practice.
>
> However, we are putting those plans on hold for the next few weeks,
while
> we focus is on supporting the existing teams
through this transition. I
> want us to make sure that goes well, before turning our attention to
the
future.
That said, I fully expect to resume work on how we expand our
support for these critical new areas in the first quarter of the new
calendar year.
== Final thoughts ==
I want to be absolutely clear that these changes are in no way an
indication that the Foundation is decreasing our commitment to support
for
the movement. I hope you see how this offers an
opportunity to do the
exact
opposite—to set us up to support the movement in
the best way we can.
For those with an interest in Wikimedia history, it’s worth noting that
the
> Foundation has taken many different shapes over the years. In 2014,
teams
> focused on community support were embedded
in other departments. At the
> time, we were much smaller, and our ability to truly engage with the
full
breadth
of the movement was more limited. In 2019, the community
engagement
teams are better resourced, more global, and more
representative of the
movement (although there’s always space for continued improvement).
We see this as the right moment to integrate the perspectives,
experiences,
and skills of these teams across the Foundation,
ensuring that support
for
> the movement is woven into all the Foundation’s work. As Wikimedians,
we
know
change is a constant—and it is through change that we often do our
best work, solve our hardest problems, and find our new path forward.
Thank
you in advance as we take this next step to
support the future of our
movement.
Sincerely,
Katherine
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>
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