I do not understand how from a general proposal for a Code of Conduct for
user groups one goes on to talk about ideologies, personal retaliations,
irony about the politic situation of the countries of those who comment
etc.
Here we are discussing together whether or not we have a shared CoC.
We have different criteria for UG, do we have different rules for reports,
deadlines, obligations? No. So why not a CoC as much shared (and then maybe
specific CoCs for particular situations).
Sorry, but I don't see the meaning of this controversy.
Camelia
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Il giorno mer 29 mag 2019 alle ore 05:22 Dennis During <dcduring(a)gmail.com>
ha scritto:
Would anyone care to specify or, at least, provide
examples of "such
ideologies" as would not be "allowed in our movement"?
I have the feeling that the focus should not be on thoughts, beliefs, or
attitudes, but rather on behavior.
I get scared ("feel unsafe") whenever discussions take the turn that this
one has, condemning people for past beliefs, for example. I am already
feeling the silent menace of labellers on me for objecting to this line of
discussion.
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 6:16 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulosperneta(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mister Thrapostibongles,
I would believe so. However, after knowing a case where a WMF staff was
fired after their denounce of such a situation caused a fuss in the
target
community, I'm not so sure the WMF shares
that understanding. Until there
is some strong standing from the WMF about such ideologies not being
allowed in our movement, to me that still is a grey area in the CoC.
Paulo
Mister Thrapostibongles <thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> escreveu no dia
terça,
28/05/2019 à(s) 16:33:
Paulo
>
> I'm curious if non discriminating anyone politically could imply a
group
> or
> > community being forced to accept people from the extreme right or the
> likes
> > of it, with public (but not onwiki) views against migration,
promoting
> > racial discrimination, and revisionism,
for instance?
> >
>
> Surely if a participant in a project is known to be an adherent of a
> murderous ideology, with a history of genocide, that takes the view
that
a
certain class of person should be discriminated
against, treated as
inferior or subject to violence or extermination -- then any member of
the
class discriminated against would have
reasonable, eve strong, grounds
for
feeling threatened by that participation?
Thrapostibongles
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