The issue is not in that way.
If you published an image exclusively on Commons, then no problem.
If you first publish an image outside Commons, how do we know that you are
the author?
OK, there may be some factors to prove that (consistency of EXIF data,
etc.), but in the absence of EXIF data, we the issue remain.
Regards,
Yann
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Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 10:00, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Again; what is different between me as a photographer
taking pictures for a
newspaper and me as a photograper taking pictures for Commons? Is it the
name written om the lens? The shoes I'm wearing?
There are no difference, this is a fallacy.
John Erling Blad
/jeblad
tir. 14. mai 2019, 05.50 skrev Yann Forget <yannfo(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi,
Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was previously
published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
I think professional photographers should have their account confirmed by
OTRS.
Regards,
Yann Forget
Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator
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Le lun. 13 mai 2019 à 16:56, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> a
écrit :
I can imagine a bot comparing photos found by
Google (ie. comparing
hashes) but not a system extracting some kind of unique feature that
says an image is a copyright violation. So how do you imagine ORES
being used for copyright violations? I can't see how a copyright
violation would have any kind of feature that is exclusive? The
argument is quite simple; I as a photographer for a newspaper could
take the exact same pictures as I as an amateur photographer. (I have
photographed a lot for various newspapers.) Using the same equipment,
and me being me, what is different?
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:21 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support
for
images
that might be copyright violation, or both.
Best
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the
amount of
> material it has to deal with.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or
capable
> to
> > > do
> > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz
<polimerek(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted.
> > > > >
> > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several
> > > GLAM-related
> > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing
> what it
> > > > is
> > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can
> create a
> > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > See:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > >
> > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with
> Common's
> > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote
you
> >
project
> > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do
something
> > > > similar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but
on
> the
> > > > other
> > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright
violating
> > > files a
> > > > > day:
> > > > >
> > > > > See the list from just one day:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > > > >
> > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to
cope
> with
> > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and after
some
time -
> > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the
other
> > > issue
> > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads -
screening
> > > uploads
> > > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles <
> > > > > thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> napisał(a):
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hello all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the
Commons
> > components
> > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a
highly
> > >> hostile place for multimedia
students contributions" at the
Education
> > >> Newsletter
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Com…
> > >>
> > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach
project
> > >> uploaded some rather well-made
video material, and comeone on
Commons
> > >> deleted them because they
appeared to well-made to be student
projects
> > > and
> > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. But some rather
odd
> > > remarks
> > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of
uploaded
> > > copyrighted
> > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that
doesn't
> > care."
> > > >> and
> > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud
storage
for
> > >> images you intend to use on
Wikipedia ".
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
> > >>
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