Again; what is different between me as a photographer taking pictures for a
newspaper and me as a photograper taking pictures for Commons? Is it the
name written om the lens? The shoes I'm wearing?
There are no difference, this is a fallacy.
John Erling Blad
/jeblad
tir. 14. mai 2019, 05.50 skrev Yann Forget <yannfo(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi,
Currently, we require a confirmation via OTRS if an image was previously
published elsewhere before being uploaded to Commons.
I think professional photographers should have their account confirmed by
OTRS.
Regards,
Yann Forget
Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator
https://www.jaijagat2020.org/
+91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp)
Le lun. 13 mai 2019 à 16:56, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
I can imagine a bot comparing photos found by
Google (ie. comparing
hashes) but not a system extracting some kind of unique feature that
says an image is a copyright violation. So how do you imagine ORES
being used for copyright violations? I can't see how a copyright
violation would have any kind of feature that is exclusive? The
argument is quite simple; I as a photographer for a newspaper could
take the exact same pictures as I as an amateur photographer. (I have
photographed a lot for various newspapers.) Using the same equipment,
and me being me, what is different?
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:21 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support
for
images
that might be copyright violation, or both.
Best
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the
amount of
> material it has to deal with.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or
capable
to
> do
> > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted.
> > >
> > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several
> GLAM-related
> > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing
what it
> > is
> > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can
create
a
> > > project template to mark all
uploads with them.
> > >
> > > See:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > >
> > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with
Common's
> > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote you
> > project
> > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do
something
> >
similar.
> > >
> > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but on
the
> > other
> > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright violating
> files a
> > > day:
> > >
> > > See the list from just one day:
> > >
> > >
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > >
> > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to cope
with
> > > aggressive hostile copyright
violators every day, and after some
time -
> > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the
other
>
issue
> > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents.
> > >
> > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads - screening
> uploads
> > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking.
> > >
> > >
> > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles <
> > > thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> napisał(a):
> > >
> > >> Hello all,
> > >>
> > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons
> > components
> > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a
highly
> > >> hostile place for multimedia
students contributions" at the
Education
> > >> Newsletter
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Com…
> >
>>
> > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach
project
> > >> uploaded some rather well-made
video material, and comeone on
Commons
> > >> deleted them because they
appeared to well-made to be student
projects
> > > and
> > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. But some rather
odd
> > > remarks
> > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of
uploaded
> > > copyrighted
> > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that
doesn't
> > care."
> > > >> and
> > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud
storage
for
> > >> images you intend to use on
Wikipedia ".
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
> > >>
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