Hello Paulo,
Thanks for restoring those images. If images are routinely deleted this
way, I'm afraid it would be difficult to retain new editors. Affiliates
invest a lot of time and resources to recruit new volunteers through
various programs/project and if their uploads are blindly deleted this way,
then it's a problem that needs urgent attention.
I honestly can't think of the best approach at the moment but something
needs to be done.
Regards,
Isaac
On Sun, May 12, 2019, 8:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta(a)gmail.com
wrote:
This is true. I verified and restored almost all the
files. There was one
or two problems with students who uploaded an occasional derivative work
(integrated in their own work), but almost all the files were OK, and
correctly uploaded. The main problem here, IMO, was marking sourced stuff
as "no source" without any explanation, marking stiff as derivative work
without explaining or stating what the original work was, and then deleting
it uncritically. I understand there is a tremendous backlog in Commons, and
the community is tiny and most of the sysops (on which I include myself)
are generally more interested in other activities than the regular
management of the project, but IMO this sort of behavior should not be seen
as acceptable. IMO it would be preferable to not delete or mark anything at
all, and let the backlog grow freely, than to do it this way. On the other
hand, in general the sysops with this kind of behavior are the most
productive in the whole management of the project, and I feel I've no right
to criticize when I have no plans to regularly help in what they are doing
with such dedication.
Best,
Paulo
Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158(a)hotmail.com> escreveu no dia domingo,
12/05/2019 à(s) 20:18:
Well.. there where instructions. All the videos
were supervised before
uploading, all the songs were perfectly cited at the descriptions and all
the own work was marked as own work. This are the instructiones to follow
when uploading to Commons.
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From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of
Peter Southwood <peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
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It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so
people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a
bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without
analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation
really.
Cheers,
Peter
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
Hello all,
There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons
components
of The Community, judging by the article
"Wikimedia Commons: a highly
hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education
Newsletter
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Com…
As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project
uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons
deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects
and
so concluded they were copyright violations. But
some rather odd remarks
were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded
copyrighted
content on behalf of a headquarters in San
Francisco that doesn't care."
and
"you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for
images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".
Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
Thrapostibongles
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