Hi all,
I think that Tomasz and Paulo have made two excellent points. Firstly,
Wikimedia Commons is a project on its own with a community that deserves
full respect and not just a storage of files that acts as a cloud service
to Wikipedia. Secondly, there is evident stagnation and even decline in the
on-wiki communities on the account of the expansion of the off-wiki
activities.
The problem here that almost all have pointed out is the enormous increase
of content compared to the fairly stagnant community growth. My impression
is that this is being allowed by the affiliates themselves when reaching
out to new partners and massively adding content with unchecked licencing
without caring much about the size of the on-wiki community that has to
deal with it. So, an ideal scenario would be to see affiliates not only
delivering new content but also contributing to community growth. As things
stand, the content growth at the current rates will make things impossible
to maintain by human hand, thus inviting the development of highly
sophisticated technology that needs to be integrated at a very high price.
In sum, the solution is either the development of new technology or
instructing the affiliates to grow the community while engaging in
collaborations that result in mass uploads.
Best,
Kiril
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:00 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulosperneta(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Wikimedia project communities in general seem to be
quite stagnant, if not
declining, apart from Wikidata, which is and always will be a whole
different case. In the case of Commons it was already very much as it is
now when I joined in 2009. I always found it a very pleasant place, but
overtime I understood I was the exception there, and most people had bad
experiences. And it is as Yann has shown there, it's a few sysops running
the entire show almost alone, not because they want that, but because
nobody else helps with that.
IMO the problem is not with the existing sysops, but because people in
general do not feel attracted to copyright and other similar minucious
stuff which marks everyday life in Commons. And, without that knowledge it
is pointless, if not counterproductive, to place a candidacy to sysop. No
idea what the solution could be, but it certainly is not blaming Commons
and the existing sysops. If more people was interested in copyright, less
mistakes would be happening in Commons as well. Whatever the solution is,
it probably passes by that.
Best,
Paulo
Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158(a)hotmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda,
13/05/2019 à(s) 07:09:
A good question to ask would be why the admin
group is not growing. And
maybe (maybe) we can find a common answer to both problems pointed here.
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